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adriansk
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Storing bike for winter Reply with quote

Hey BCF,

1st bike, 1st winter so haven't got a clue what I'm doing Laughing

I've cleaned the bike, wiped it all down and is now stood in the garage. I've removed the negative cable. Anything else I should be doing? I've got a tiny bit of petrol left in the tank, that ok?

Last time I used the bike was about a month ago and it hardly started as it was stood in the garage for about 3 weeks.I'm going reconnect the battery on Saturday and try and start it up, doubt it will, tbh I have no idea how old the battery is.

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PostPosted: 11:20 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Throw an old sheet over it to keep the dust off of it. Get an optimate battery charger and plug it into the mains while
it sits. It may even rejuvenate and recover the old battery a bit. Fill the tank because condensation inside will eventually cause rust.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Few things that spring to mind:

(1) Fill tank to full
(2) Put the bike on paddock stands or alike to get the tyres of the ground so they don't develop flat spots,
(3) Clean and lube chain so in aid to prevent it getting rusty
(4) Put battery on (trickle?) charge over time not used
(5) Clean and lube parts

Use the time its of the road to do the odd jobs, including that battery issue, or just look at it.

I'd still be riding mind, been mild thus far.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
Throw an old sheet over it to keep the dust off of it.

For ritual purposes?

Unless you're living in the garage and shedding skin in there, the only dust will be blowing in from outside.

Once you take it outside in Spring, <SPOILER> it'll immediately be exposed to outside dust. </SPOILER>

Agree with the rest though. Fill the tank, fill the battery. You could consider dumping some fuel stabiliser in the tank.

Nazi Tractor told me it was 12 degrees up here today, I was sweating in my winter gear.
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, because it's necessary. My (working) shed is very well ventilated, The dust and crap that gathers on my bike covering
sheets (sawdust usually from my nearby wood chopping area although I occasionally see leaves blown in from the 60ft oak
tree about 5 metres away) seems to demonstrate their usefulness. Besides, I like to keep my bike in showroom condition.
The only time my bikes are not in the shed is when I'm out on them. They don't sit outside in either rain or sunshine,
and are regularly slavered with a variety of detailing products.

I even clean the thing in there, a shed-bath if you will. Not everybody wants a battle scarred neglected looking old thing.
Believe me Roger, dust doesn't settle on this thing when it actually is outside. But when there's gaps of literally weeks &
sometimes months between rides it does make some sense. I will sack going out for a ride if the roads are wet, never
mind if it's actually raining. Not because I struggle to ride in that kind of weather, but because I don't want my bike to get filthy.
It pissed me off greatly that on Akrapovic day it was chucking it down and a 6 mile ride had my bike looking like I'd taken
it off road. Stopped me going out and scaring some pensioners with noizee exhorst and everything. It's fair to
say it's more of a toy than a tool for me. Off outside to wash the car now.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree about covering it up. Unless your shed/garage is air tight, then you are going to get dust settling on your nice shiny paintwork.

Mines been undercover since i cleaned it & ACF50'd it on Nov 5th. Dying to get out on it though now the salt has been washed away Laughing

OP, may be a good idea to take your battery off and take it inside if it is not shagged, it will prevent any further deterioation. (if you are not going to ride it for a couple of months) Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:47 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all for responses.

It's already stood on center stand, chain cleaned and lubed. Will add more petrol and will purchase a trickle charger (£20 at Argos).
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:

and are regularly slavered with a variety of detailing products.

I even clean the thing in there...


Sorry for the slight sidetrack of the thread..


I bought my bike a couple of months ago and have used it only a handful of times in rain etc so it's time for a clean I guess. And honestly, I have not got the faintest idea of what/how/where to start. I get my cars washed from the carwash regularly (I don't have a jetwash) but the post-wash polish I do myself so I'm not completely alien to detailing itself but I would appreciate some tips/products/methods on how to clean my tiddler? I wasn't sure I wanted to take my bike to the carwash and pay a fiver for such a small machine and I don't expect that's a norm?
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

onlyJaz wrote:
grr666 wrote:

and are regularly slavered with a variety of detailing products.

I even clean the thing in there...


Sorry for the slight sidetrack of the thread..


I bought my bike a couple of months ago and have used it only a handful of times in rain etc so it's time for a clean I guess. And honestly, I have not got the faintest idea of what/how/where to start. I get my cars washed from the carwash regularly (I don't have a jetwash) but the post-wash polish I do myself so I'm not completely alien to detailing itself but I would appreciate some tips/products/methods on how to clean my tiddler? I wasn't sure I wanted to take my bike to the carwash and pay a fiver for such a small machine and I don't expect that's a norm?


Cleaning your own bike is good practice as you can pick up on any potential problems that could be lurking.......

My basic method:-

Clean chain with GT85 or WD40 before washing the bike and wipe dry with an old cloth.

1. Soak the bike with a hose

2. spray all over with a product like Muc off (agitate any grimey areas with a little brush)

3. Rinse off with hose

4. wipe excess water off with chamois

5. spray engine, forks, ignition barrel and dash with GT85 (smells nicer than WD40 and protects as it has PTFE)

6. Lube the chain with whatever you use (i use chain wax as it doesnt fling off as much)

7. Clean break discs.

Jobs a good un
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Resist the temptation to 'fire it up' for a while every so often. Plenty of people pop up and say "I always fire it up through winter and leave it idling for ten minutes and it's fiiiiine"

It isn't. It encourages internal condensation because you can't get it hot enough stood idling for it to burn off. Either leave it be or take it for a ride.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Store it between your legs for an hour daily.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the past I've done an oil change prior to winterising the bike.

I bag the exhaust, so nothing climbs in.

I lay some carpet off bits on the ground and have both tyres on them. (I've had a BT21, go weird over winter once)

I remove the battery and keep it in the house and give it a charge once a month or so.

Ohh I put a dust sheet over it also.

Ohh keep the seat on. I had a mouse who made his home, in the under seat storage of my Z one year.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Re: Storing bike for winter Reply with quote

adriansk wrote:
Last time I used the bike was about a month ago and it hardly started as it was stood in the garage for about 3 weeks.I'm going reconnect the battery on Saturday and try and start it up, doubt it will, tbh I have no idea how old the battery is.

Looks like you'll need a new battery in the spring. A good battery might make it, but ideally you need to be taking the bike out for a spin or buying a trickle charger.
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some great tips on here. Filling the tank will prevent rust forming, the petrol covers the internal steel and prevents oxygen getting to it, thus no internal tank rusting.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 14 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer to drain fuel tanks and run carbs dry.

If you drain the tank you can either take it off and pour in a cup full of engine oil and shake it around, or alternatively spray a load of water dispersant oil spray into the tank and leave it on the bike.

I like to fire up a two stroke engine every couple of months tho, to keep the crank seals wet with oil. If your storing the bike much longer, I'd probably fill the crankcase with oil instead.
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PostPosted: 06:23 - 15 Dec 2016    Post subject: Re: Storing bike for winter Reply with quote

adriansk wrote:
Hey BCF,

1st bike, 1st winter so haven't got a clue what I'm doing Laughing
Cheers all


What winter.......

So far apart from 1 day with a bit of snow, a couple of frosts.... The worst we are suffering is temps above 10C Embarassed

Just ride it... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:11 - 15 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mousetraps.

Two years ago the bastards ate my boots, pissed in the pockets of a jacket and set up home in my airbox.

Kill them all with mousetraps.
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PostPosted: 07:29 - 15 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
I like my shiny toys very shiny.


I agree that a dust cover is necessary if the bike isn't used for a prolonged period and you want to keep it showroom clean, but it has to be a breathable cover, not a waterproof tarp etc.
Change of temperature = condensation forming conditions + lower airflow in shed + plastic cover eliminating what airflow there was = corrosion on your pride and joy.

Even in a shed I'd be using ACF50.
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PostPosted: 07:59 - 15 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use an old cotton bedsheet with elasticated corners. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 15 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
I use an old cotton bedsheet with elasticated corners. Thumbs Up


But how do you store/fold the bed sheet when you're not storing the bike?
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 15 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I throw it over the top of the other bike that I'm not using for an hour or two while I'm out on the one I just uncovered. Question
It's only ever out of the shed for an hour or two at a time. I'm mostly a sunny sunday rider.
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 15 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, I just wanted help with folding fitted sheets Sad
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 15 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

smallfrowne wrote:
Damn, I just wanted help with folding fitted sheets Sad


Get your better half to do it Laughing Laughing
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