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Doink
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 24 Dec 2016    Post subject: Triumph Street Triple models Reply with quote
Evening gents.

I ride a Deauville as a daily commuter and was recently thinking about getting rid of that and getting a BMW F800ST which i could use as a commuter but also have a bit more fun on. I've now decided that I'll just keep the Deau for the commute and get a second bike purely just for fun and the Street Triple looks like it could fit the bill perfectly as a weekend toy.

I love the earlier Triples with the round headlights but have noticed some of the earlier bikes going for more money than the later models, are the later bikes any worse or is it just the fact that the earlier ones are more popular due to their looks?
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 24 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
You could always get a modern model and do a headlamp conversion, there's some pretty amazing bargains floating about at the moment and probably more to come as the new model is on the way... also I got the newer headlights and really after awhile they do grow on you and I don't even notice them anymore, you can't really see them whilst sitting on the bike...
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 24 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
vice wrote:
You could always get a modern model and do a headlamp conversion, there's some pretty amazing bargains floating about at the moment and probably more to come as the new model is on the way... also I got the newer headlights and really after awhile they do grow on you and I don't even notice them anymore, you can't really see them whilst sitting on the bike...


Is there any performance difference or is it just cosmetic between the two models?
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 24 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've had both a 2007 Street and 2014 Street R. Have to say I prefer the newer one but you wont go wrong with either.
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 24 Dec 2016    Post subject: Re: Triumph Street Triple models Reply with quote
Doink wrote:
I love the earlier Triples with the round headlights


Me too.

Doink wrote:
but have noticed some of the earlier bikes going for more money than the later models


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PostPosted: 21:40 - 24 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Doink wrote:
vice wrote:
You could always get a modern model and do a headlamp conversion, there's some pretty amazing bargains floating about at the moment and probably more to come as the new model is on the way... also I got the newer headlights and really after awhile they do grow on you and I don't even notice them anymore, you can't really see them whilst sitting on the bike...


Is there any performance difference or is it just cosmetic between the two models?


Not much, older model slightly higher hp (107 vs 105 I think) newer model lighter (new chassis) balances out. Older model has dual pipes under seat, great in winter warm in summer, newer single low pipe. Older model short first gear newer model longer first, more city friendly.

Again you can get a number of mods though... getting a quickshifter fitted soon, cos the demo bike I had was one of the best times I've had with my clothes on 😁
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 24 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Love mine to bits, it's the perfect bike for me. I wanted the R version as I liked the matte grey paint finish. I also like the fact it has fully adjustable suspension; I plan to have it set up for my weight in the new year. I would highly recommend one. It's easy to ride, great fun and ohhh! The induction noise! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 25 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Older ones you can pick up for free if you have a set of hands, just tug some wires.

I love mine, 2010 model. Erm, I'd probably get one with an alarm or something though.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 26 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Apparently the earlier model is very easy to steal and the scum know it, so nick them.

I still hanker after one, but will see what next year brings. I really dont have time to ride so while I want one, its a bit of a large extravagance.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 26 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Samsbike wrote:
Apparently the earlier model is very easy to steal and the scum know it, so nick them.

I still hanker after one, but will see what next year brings. I really dont have time to ride so while I want one, its a bit of a large extravagance.


I've set aside £5k to spend (maybe more if something special crops up) so a newisn model isn't out of the question, I'd be looking to get a ground anchor to fix it to the floor and a lot seem to have alarms fitted too.

This bike is gonna be a bit of a treat for me, I've had a very good year at work and have got some spare cash to throw at fun stuff, hopefully I'll be able to grab a no P/X winter bargain.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 26 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Samsbike wrote:
I really dont have time to ride


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PostPosted: 08:45 - 27 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
recman wrote:
Samsbike wrote:
I really dont have time to ride


Confused


Between kids and work, there is no escape.

I really want one for sunny days as I already have a commuter (and it's too much of a hassle riding a ST into Lomdon with all the average speed cameras).

Pricing seems very strong though, £4k is the cheapest non damaged/ cat write off bike I can find. Are prices likely to drop with the new model? My budget is £3k.

I had a non R before and know that a R is what I really wanted.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 27 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Samsbike wrote:

Between kids and work, there is no escape.

I really want one for sunny days as I already have a commuter (and it's too much of a hassle riding a ST into Lomdon with all the average speed cameras).

Pricing seems very strong though, £4k is the cheapest non damaged/ cat write off bike I can find. Are prices likely to drop with the new model? My budget is £3k.

I had a non R before and know that a R is what I really wanted.



Rightly or wrongly certain Triumphs all seem to hold their value pretty well. I would certainly wait and see what happens after the release of the new model and what second hand values do then.
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 27 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
So is the only difference between the standard model and the R just the suspension, or are the bars different too?
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 27 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Doink wrote:
So is the only difference between the standard model and the R just the suspension, or are the bars different too?


Radial calipers on the R (and very good they are too). Don't think anything else?
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 27 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I believe the rear ride height is taller on the R? Or am I imagining it? I.e the steering angle is different on the R
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 27 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
bacon wrote:
I believe the rear ride height is taller on the R? Or am I imagining it? I.e the steering angle is different on the R


There's definitely more pressure on the wrists with the R version.
Maybe it's the geometry, seat to bar height or maybe because the rear shock is firmer but there is a difference somewhere that makes things less comfortable, for me anyway.
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 27 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
recman wrote:
bacon wrote:
I believe the rear ride height is taller on the R? Or am I imagining it? I.e the steering angle is different on the R


There's definitely more pressure on the wrists with the R version.
Maybe it's the geometry, seat to bar height or maybe because the rear shock is firmer but there is a difference somewhere that makes things less comfortable, for me anyway.


I think the rear shock is ever so slightly lower giving a more nose down feeling.
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 28 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
A bit of googling..

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The R is different from the standard model in terms of geometry thanks to a 23.4-degree rake measurement and 95.0mm of trail. Compare this to the 2011 Street Triple R, which benefited from a 23.9-degree rake measurement and 92mm of trail.


And from visordown.

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Despite weighing only 182kg fully fuelled the Triumph is impressively poised through corners. Chuck the front wheel into a bend and you’re greeted with the type of composure you’d expect from a sports bike. There’s no wobble or weave like you’d get on Yamaha’s MT-07, for example, just endless agility and precision. I suspect the new taller 820mm seat height - which has helped increase weight distribution over the front by 3% - has something to do with that.


15mm higher seat than the non R (or at least the previous generation)
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 29 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Joining in the triple party....

Went to look at a vfr today and then saw this....

https://www.justwings.co.uk/cms_new/index.php?id=44&tx_ttnews[pointer]=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=2697&tx_ttnews[backPid]=43&cHash=ca3dd3afda672007fe7c36a51a2a31be

And i absolutely love it, BUT, as it's an older model than some of the ones being mentioned are they still as good ? A newer one is out of the question as the £3k mark is top of my budget

I dont get how a 2003 VFR with 41000 on the clock is £2495 and this is £3095?

My riding is my commute down the a19 on a weekday and then out on the weekends generally practicing !!

Is it to much for someone who has 1yrs (ish) experience ?
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 30 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
That exhaust is a fucking abomination.
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 30 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
mrmistoffelees wrote:
Joining in the triple party....

Went to look at a vfr today and then saw this....

https://www.justwings.co.uk/cms_new/index.php?id=44&tx_ttnews[pointer]=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=2697&tx_ttnews[backPid]=43&cHash=ca3dd3afda672007fe7c36a51a2a31be

And i absolutely love it, BUT, as it's an older model than some of the ones being mentioned are they still as good ? A newer one is out of the question as the £3k mark is top of my budget

I dont get how a 2003 VFR with 41000 on the clock is £2495 and this is £3095?

My riding is my commute down the a19 on a weekday and then out on the weekends generally practicing !!

Is it to much for someone who has 1yrs (ish) experience ?



That is, quoting the obvious, a SPEED triple.

Having ridden both the street and speed (and owned a street R) I would compare them in the car world to a yank muscle car and a Ferrari. No prizes for guessing which is which.

I liked riding the speed but I bet a pound to a pinch of shit 90% of riders will be faster and more confident on the Street. It is a far better overall bike.
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 30 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:

I liked riding the speed but I bet a pound to a pinch of shit 90% of riders will be faster and more confident on the Street. It is a far better overall bike.


When I rode the last of the outgoing round headlight model Speed, I absolutely loved it. So much so I was within scratching distance of buying it. The engine just had so much character. In fact I bought my old Sprint as a direct consequence.

If the Street is better, and I wouldn't know as I've never ridden one, then it'd be an absolute riot.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 30 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
arry wrote:
Polarbear wrote:

I liked riding the speed but I bet a pound to a pinch of shit 90% of riders will be faster and more confident on the Street. It is a far better overall bike.


When I rode the last of the outgoing round headlight model Speed, I absolutely loved it. So much so I was within scratching distance of buying it. The engine just had so much character. In fact I bought my old Sprint as a direct consequence.

If the Street is better, and I wouldn't know as I've never ridden one, then it'd be an absolute riot.


As with everything it's horses for courses.

I have a friend who is on his third ZRX and is already looking for a very low mileage example for his next bike, cost no object. I rode his and disliked it intensely. It had, as far as I was concerned, the handling of an 80's bike dressed up as more modern.

I like the old V Max. Evil handling thing that it is.

The street is just so easy to ride, and ride quickly.
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 30 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:

The street is just so easy to ride, and ride quickly.


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