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NutsyUk
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: What should my proper bike be? Advice please :) Reply with quote

So you see, im getting used to my lexmoto very quickly... heck I was going down the A47 and noticed my speedo hit 75mph on a downhill bit... And tbh it really didnt feel like it. (i slowed down of course to the legal limit on noticing like a good boy) I mean I wasnt even trying to go that fast.

Anyway im getting comfortable with going at a little speed on 2 wheels now and its making me think more and more about what real bike should I get? I may not wait to mid summer now to get the full licence.

Now i cant buy new im not that rich. But I do want to get something nice.

Here is where I need my advice. You lot know a heck of a lot more than me.

What am I looking for? Well more power than a 125 :p, ideally black (though i realise most bikes do that anyway)

Now I love the new triumph bikes. But theyre way toooooooo expensive and powerful for me. I really like semi naked bikes, a little fairing on the front cowl and about the place, but some guts on show.

A sports/tourer style I guess. Not a supersport.

So stealth fighter sharp polygonal shapes semi naked and i guess in the 200-600cc range.

Oh and of course solid as a rock... While i can tinker i dont want to always be tinkering for the life of the bike.

Any ideas what I should look for?
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything you describe is an SV650.
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

pretty close... pretty bike too, but i want a little more of a front cowl, light enclosure. Not a fan of the single round headlight...

Oh and i would say it might be a little too powerful for me... I dunno
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:19 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

SV650S then Laughing

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Suzuki_SV650.jpg/300px-Suzuki_SV650.jpg

Their top speed is only about 125-135mph. But they're really torquey down low.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

How rich are you?
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think for a big bike ill stretch to a couple of grand for a second hand but thats a stretch... And yeah... That SV650 i also saw, thought it was a google images mix up... And yes that is more to what Im looking for... Also I like transformers eyes ala triumph style if anyone is doing then :p
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a cool bike or a particulary great bike, but you'd get a mint Condition GSXF600 for well under that budget, that you could take the fairing lowers off to keep them nice, and save the spare for the next big bike?

Might be a stupid suggestion? But otherwise a half faired Hornet or a Fazer would be easy to find in good condition in budget too.

I'd these days probably prefer a Yamaha MT07 to either, but not enough fairing and too much for your budget.

Do you want a bike to like or love, or just something to get you to work with a bigger engine and more fairing? If I really didn't give a shit and wanted a two wheeled taxi, then I'd happily ride something like the GSXF or a Diversion 600 etc?

In short there's a fuckton of suitable bikes out there in your budget, but it comes down to what you like, and would be happy with as much as anything else? Personally for commuting daily on a bike, I'd want it to be something I really don't like or feel interested in, as I'd hate to waste a nice or interesting bike on soul destroying A-B transport.
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, i want a bike ill like but yeah it would be used to commute with too Very Happy

Im sure my ideas would change in time. And yes I will be focusing on my license. But nothing wrong with some research first.

That Yamaha m07 is pretty too... though maybe too big a bike for me :p
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aloysius Parker wrote:
What 'big bike' you want is going to change a dozen times over between now and actually buying one.

I would concentrate on getting a license first.


This.

Before I was old enough for my license I debated what my first big bike will be a hundred times, and I changed ideas around a hundred times as there's so much choice (ended up with the er6n as it's so pretty and quick), definitely get the license first, then you can look at your selection, narrow it down to what you're looking for, find compatible bikes, and test ride them (if you were to somehow get the opportunity) or look at owner / pro reviews.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

NutsyUk wrote:
Heh, i want a bike ill like but yeah it would be used to commute with too Very Happy

Im sure my ideas would change in time. And yes I will be focusing on my license. But nothing wrong with some research first.

That Yamaha m07 is pretty too... though maybe too big a bike for me :p


MT07 isn't anything special or particularly hard to get used to, just respect the extra power.

My er6n is very similar in terms of output and whatnot and after 2 months on a scooter and 3/4 on a CBR125 I upgraded just fine and I'm feeling confident to hoon around a teeny bit with wheelies and whatnot just 2 months in.

Wouldn't be a bad second bike I reckon, mt07 or er6n - might want to look at the er6n as I went for it due to the price (and imo looks better) as its been around a lot longer.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine capacity isn't necessarily a good measure of how difficult a bike is to handle. Some larger bikes are really forgiving to ride where as some smaller ones have characteristics which make them a challenge, so it comes down to the individual bike I reckon.

With regard to the ER6. I don't find it boring, it's pretty nimble and I don't have much trouble keeping up with VFR800s, etc. It makes a great commuter as it is quite torquey and dead easy to blat about town on. I prefer the ER6 to the SV650, it's more comfortable and I find the engine has more character. The biggest downside is the budget suspension. At higher speeds the front crashes over bumps and the rear wallows when on an undulating or lumpy road which sometimes makes me slow down more than I might on something better suspended. This is only really an issue when really pressing on though, or when carrying a pillion. For 90% of my use of it it's fine.

It has also been pretty reliable over the last 3 years and approx 20k. I did replace the chain and sprockets as the chain developed a stiff link, the brake calipers benefit from regular cleaning and the rear sprocket carrier bearing failed as it wasn't the sealed type and salty water ruined it. I replaced it with a sealed one. Aside from that I've not had any issues at all and have only replaced normal consumables.

As a commuter used for occasional blasts it's a decent bike IMO. The only reason I want to upgrade is because I don't like carrying a pillion on it and I'd like more stability at high speed (could be fixed with new shock and fork emulators but I'd like something with more space for the pillion anyway). I wouldn't recommend it for anyone tall though. Too cramped.

All that said I think the Hornet/Fazer would probably be a more enjoyable toy. ER6 probably a bit more practical in town. Bandit I've never really been keen on. Personally for fun solo bike I think I;d be looking at the MT series, a duke 690 or something along those lines. Maybe a Tuono, I did enjoy that. Not the best commuters though IMO but I don't travel far so doesn't matter for me too greatly.


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PostPosted: 20:08 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

NutsyUk wrote:
I think for a big bike ill stretch to a couple of grand for a second hand but thats a stretch

FZS600 or SV650S, although the early ER6s are starting to come up pretty cheaply now.

Usual advice, don't make your mind up until you're licenced up, and use your training bike to help decide based on what you like and dislike about it.

Personnel records indicate that OP is 33+, so will be going full A rather than A2. However, he got absolutely rinsed on the insurance for his Lexmoto, so might be in some weird area or category that makes insurance a consideration.
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapt0r1997 wrote:
ended up with the er6n as it's so pretty and quick)


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PostPosted: 20:26 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly, not the area that caused the insurance hike... Im in the best area possible...

I wont go into details as its not pretty but I seriously fucked up a few years ago...

I have a non-driving offence that isn't classed as spent. So I have to disclose it and that alone sent my insurance right up.

And yeah Im 34, prolly be 35 when I go full licence.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is! Evil or Very Mad

The pretty thing is objective and for my eyes it's prettier than most other bikes, which is why I chose it over some of the more logical and cheaper options for myself.

The twin is definitely quick, I didn't say fast, but 0-60 in 3.5 secs (on some 0-60 website, seems accurate according to yt vids) is quick, doesn't have top end like an inline 4 600, but I don't like jail speeds anyway, there's limits, though I'm not sure whether I will say the same about the statement once I jump on a bigger bike, in good time of course.

It's all debatable anyway, I ain't too bothered with people on gixxas and whatnot thinking I'm slow or telling me it's just a commuter, for the time being the looks/sound/speed all put a smile on my face, which matters most to myself, I wouldn't change it for anything right now.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

meggark wrote:
Engine capacity isn't necessarily a good measure of how difficult a bike is to handle. Some larger bikes are really forgiving to ride where as some smaller ones have characteristics which make them a challenge, so it comes down to the individual bike I reckon.

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NutsyUk wrote:
Sadly, not the area that caused the insurance hike... Im in the best area possible...

I wont go into details as its not pretty but I seriously fucked up a few years ago...

I have a non-driving offence that isn't classed as spent. So I have to disclose it and that alone sent my insurance right up.

And yeah Im 34, prolly be 35 when I go full licence.

You can tell us, we won't judge you much. When it comes to insurance usually older stuff such as Bandits, GPZs are cheaper. I don't imagine they'll be much more to insure than your 125. SV650s are IIRC fairly cheap as well.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fazer 600.
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in a similar position a year ago but getting really pissed off on a 125 with lack of power.swapped the 125 for my cb750 because I like that style of bike and they are low maintenance/reliable.im sure plenty will mock my bike but it's comfy and a bit more manly than the fallopian flyer I was wobbling around on.

Don't worry about power,a bike will only do what you tell it to.
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 03 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm doing the standard thing and getting a Triumph Street Triple R.

I do like the look of the GSR 750, not as badass looking as the Striple but a fine looking machine.
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PostPosted: 03:31 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you use the bike for and how big are you?

SV650 feels small on me, particularly between the seat and the bars. Fazers have already been mentioned and are roomier. If you commute or otherwise ride in all conditions consider a Bandit S or recent (bandit derived) GSX600F, the screen and fairing is big enough to keep a lot of the rain off, they're quite big and suited to a larger rider although the seat is lower than the SV. They take luggage and pillions well. Handling is forgiving rather than razor sharp.
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapt0r1997 wrote:
ended up with the er6n as it's so pretty and quick.


This is both prettier and quicker.

https://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh504/wr6133/Hello-Kitty-6v-Kids-Fun-Electric-Ride-On_zps5c620977.jpg
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
rapt0r1997 wrote:
ended up with the er6n as it's so pretty and quick.


This is both prettier and quicker.

https://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh504/wr6133/Hello-Kitty-6v-Kids-Fun-Electric-Ride-On_zps5c620977.jpg


Come ooooon, I can't be the only one who thinks the er6n is gorgeous?? Laughing Laughing Laughing

I'll forget the quick part, because even though it accelerates like a beast to like 60/80 it's all objective as I'm guessing you gixxah riders will think it's a snail. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're biased therefore your opinion doesn't count. Razz
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