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Tamsin
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Replacing the CBR Reply with quote

So...

currently on a 1992 CBR600F, which is in pretty good condition apart from a crack and some scraping down the left hand fairing and scrape on the engine casing from when I chucked it down the road in November. I was thinking before I binned it that it really wasn't the right machine for me, and I'm wondering what else I should be looking for as a replacement, budget is going to be whatever I can get for the CBR which I think is realistically £600-£700.

I'm after something with a little bit more of an upright riding position and lighter, unfashionable to theives and happy with motorway speeds.

I did have a ride on a v-strom in October and thought that it would really fit the bill for me, but there isn't the budget.

So tell me BCF, what shitheap bikes should I be looking for? Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: Replacing the CBR Reply with quote

Tamsin wrote:
So...


I did have a ride on a v-strom in October and thought that it would really fit the bill for me, but there isn't the budget.

So tell me BCF, what shitheap bikes should I be looking for? Laughing



What exactly about the strom did you like, was it the position or the engine etc.

Strom's aren't light, mine is 230kg fully fuelled.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The riding position, much more confortable upright position and a bit higher too Cool
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear nakeds are far less attractive to thieves than faired bikes.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've alway prefered naked bikes anyway Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

NTV650/Deauville? Practical, shafty, great weather protection, thieves won't touch it. Little boring.

Divvy 600/900? Cheap, practical, 900 is a shafty

Might be a struggle in budget but KLE500 for something vaguely strom-like?

CB500? Cheap, reasonably fun to throw about. ER5 for similar, although CB seems to be the better bike.

GPZ?

Early FZS600? Might be a bit over budget.

I'd just do a Gumtree/Ebay search within a 200 mile radius and see what comes up within budget. There's normally a few little bargains that interest me in my area, although normally quirky things that you might not want as an every day bike.


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PostPosted: 16:28 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be worth looking for a curvy sv650 same engine as the strom (assuming 650 and not 1000) along with the upright riding position.
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the latest generation SV650 like in comparison to the curvy one? I've had a ride on one of those too and it rather brought out the hooligan in me, if I had that bike I'd not be holding my licence for long...

NTV/Dullville look like decent shouts Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

There haven't been any real power/torque increases since it was first developed to be honest for the most part the engine has been exactly the same except some changes for emissions and things.

I ride a pointy S and I'm not sure I'd call it a hooligan machine and I can't see the newest ones released last year as being hugely different.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its clearly not a hooligan machine, it just brought that side of me out Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom_e wrote:
Might be worth looking for a curvy sv650 same engine as the strom (assuming 650 and not 1000) along with the upright riding position.

They're not all that upright:
https://i57.tinypic.com/31522xh.png
(same with the older one).

The naked is fairly upright. With that budget I'd be looking for whatever comes up rather than looking for a specific bike. My choice would be a Hornet, but it probably won't be that much (if at all) lighter.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kind of agree with you that its a case of what comes up.... but I'm keeping the CBR until I find something that I like. I can afford to pick up something new, but need to put that cash back into the savings.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll have a tough time finding something better with that budget.
As mentioned, just keep an eye on gumtree etc for bikes in your price range and see what comes up.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tamsin wrote:
Ratchet Straps for when I pick up my next bike (hopefully at the weekend Laughing )

Spares/Repairs CG

Have we already decided? Laughing

If a project's ok then you might have a few more options (for example): https://www.gumtree.com/p/replacement-parts/honda-hornet-cb600f-for-spares-or-repair./1204066205 A bit far away but he'd probably take 500. Looks like a strange mix of new components and rust though Confused
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not replacing the cbr with another cg :p I love cgs and don't want to take my existing one into London, simply because if it got nicked I would be distraught. This is a spares/repairs one that's an easy fix and is for ragging round town on. (Half an hours work and 50 quid tops)

Project wise, rolling resto is fine but if it's not roadworthy enough to ride home then I'm not interested...
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
tom_e wrote:
Might be worth looking for a curvy sv650 same engine as the strom (assuming 650 and not 1000) along with the upright riding position.

They're not all that upright:
https://i57.tinypic.com/31522xh.png
(same with the older one).

The naked is fairly upright. With that budget I'd be looking for whatever comes up rather than looking for a specific bike. My choice would be a Hornet, but it probably won't be that much (if at all) lighter.


That's why I didn't recommend the S variant Wink
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom_e wrote:
curvy sv650 [...] upright riding position.

I've never heard the naked and upright (and rare) SV650 referred to as the "curvy".

The curvy is the same faux-racebike as the pointy-SV650S, both slightly leanier than OP's CBR.

The requirements don't really make sense. Naked, but motorway speeds don't really go together, and neither does motorway speeds but lighter than a CBR, especially at that budget.

+infinity to point that at that money you'll just have to grab whatever comes up rather than chasing any particular model. You might even consider a swap. Remember, your busted up old hack might be someone else's appreciating classic.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom_e wrote:
That's why I didn't recommend the S variant Wink

Is the curvy not the 'old' one?

https://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/15/13/82/47/sv10.png
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curvy and pointy are how a lot of people refer to the 1st and 2nd gen SVs the 1st gen being the curvy due to the curvy lines of the frame. They both come in naked and faired variants with the faired ones being referred to as the SV650S and the naked upright ones just being referred to as the SV650.

I recommend the curvy model purely because it'll be easier to find one in the price bracket the op has.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
The requirements don't really make sense. Naked, but motorway speeds don't really go together, and neither does motorway speeds but lighter than a CBR, especially at that budget.


I never specified naked as a requirement, but you seem to be saying that there is no such thing as a naked bike weighing under 190kg (dry) that can sit happily at 70mph.... I find that concept a little odd :/
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tamsin wrote:


I never specified naked as a requirement, but you seem to be saying that there is no such thing as a naked bike weighing under 190kg (dry) that can sit happily at 70mph.... I find that concept a little odd :/


I think he's referring more to the fact that it can get tiring sitting at 70mph+ on a naked bike due to lack of protection from the airflow and weather. Especially where your neck is concerned. True but not a deal breaker for me.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

My head is slap bang in the turbulent airflow from the cbr anyway. If I duck down a bit or stretch up slightly it all but vanishes... but is rather uncomfortable to maintain
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tamsin wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
The requirements don't really make sense. Naked, but motorway speeds don't really go together, and neither does motorway speeds but lighter than a CBR, especially at that budget.


I never specified naked as a requirement, but you seem to be saying that there is no such thing as a naked bike weighing under 190kg (dry) that can sit happily at 70mph.... I find that concept a little odd :/


Naked bikes are the easiest way to get a comfortable upright position that's probably why they've been focused on.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 04 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom_e wrote:
Curvy and pointy are how a lot of people refer to the 1st and 2nd gen SVs the 1st gen being the curvy due to the curvy lines of the frame. They both come in naked and faired variants with the faired ones being referred to as the SV650S and the naked upright ones just being referred to as the SV650.

I recommend the curvy model purely because it'll be easier to find one in the price bracket the op has.

So all things considered it would have been easier to say naked? Smile
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 05 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
tom_e wrote:
Curvy and pointy are how a lot of people refer to the 1st and 2nd gen SVs the 1st gen being the curvy due to the curvy lines of the frame. They both come in naked and faired variants with the faired ones being referred to as the SV650S and the naked upright ones just being referred to as the SV650.

I recommend the curvy model purely because it'll be easier to find one in the price bracket the op has.

So all things considered it would have been easier to say naked? Smile


Yes Embarassed

But now everyone's had a nice little learning experience on sv650 naming conventions Laughing
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