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PostPosted: 20:29 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Had a wonderful (scary) trip today... Reply with quote

Was a rather lovely day here in norfolk today, and I decided to take a ride to Norwich, I needed to see how long it would take me and work out the safest way to get there as ill be regularly riding there soon...

Anyway lovely journey there took the B roads sun was out... Really really nice.

While down there I popped into a great motorbike show room shop just south of the city... Ive now pinned what my new bike will be...

It all depends on a few things, and includes work situation down the line. But the new Z650 Kawasaki.... serious <B for that one. But around 5-6 grand new. The z650 is replacing the Er6... Er6 is still on the list as a close second. It all depends on money later in the year.

I applied for a job today. Truth be told I dont expect to get it but if i did. I would be able to afford to buy the bike... At the very least on 9% finance.

I know i know lots of ifs and maybes... But its nice to have something to aim towards.

PS yes I am currently saving for my direct access.

Anyway thats were the fun ended.

On the way back it was starting to get dark, but I was suffering low blood sugar having not eaten a bean all day. So I stopped in at the Mac Ds on the west of Norwich on the A47, was going to top up the tank there too...

Ate by the time I got going it was DARK! and things went from bad to worse. My lid sheild started to mist up. But it wasnt mist i think it was salts. I couldnt rub it clean... Theres me trying to do 60mph on my 125 on a really busy A47 being blinded by oncoming traffic lights... So many people had there high beams on, pissed me right off.

And it still didnt end there. It got foggy.... REALLY foggy. I couldnt see 5 feet in front of me at times. I was going slow and there was people still blasting along at 80... I had to get off the road. I was shitting bricks by this point. Got to Dereham and parked up and fiddled with phones satnav. Tried to get home by the side roads and avoid the A47...

Set a route and followed. Visor up my glasses protecting my eyes from the cold wind (still streaming though) face frozen and im blindly following the satnav. Truth is I dont know the routes all that well. Anyway I come up to a turning and low and behold... It decided on a different route and put me back on the A47 D: ..............

So I was stuck on the A47 again for a few miles and the fog got REALLY bad again. I had to slow down to about 20mph I really couldnt see anything. Waze (i was using waze, need to get a proper thing its shit) showed me a right hand was coming up. Waze being Waze, it seems to lag behind by about 10 or so meters. And I couldnt see the turning... So I had to stop in the middle of the road in the fog, oncoming traffic still coming and me hoping a turning was a few feet in front of me.... Turned out i had missed it, but by only a few meters.

Still....... Not fun. From there I had nice quite side roads all the way home. Still couldnt see shit. I nearly went into a sign on a triangle split...

Got home safe... A little wiser and a few years older. (hearts about to give out)

I didnt panic. But it really was scary.
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aloysius Parker wrote:
My commute was also through dense freezing fog 6am this morning.

Keep at it when the spring comes and all the fair weather riders come crawling out of the woodwork expecting a nod. You will be a much better rider than they are.

Edit - Just read all of your post sounds like a lot of your problems were down to being a noob.


Noob in what sense?
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^Good riders will always be good riders even if they've been off the bike through winter. Wink
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^^^Good riders will always be good riders even if they've been off the bike through winter. Wink


Indeed. It's like.....well, like riding a bike.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

NutsyUk wrote:


Noob in what sense?


I did a trip into the Dales on Monday. It was this foggy.

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Journey there was unreal, couldn't see a thing, constantly wiping fog moisture away from view.

Didn't complain about it on here.

And sod satnav Wink

Did similar in the dark today on the way back from Leeds, too, through horrid soggy winding back country B roads with more traffic than they were ever really designed for. Sometimes I've found visibility is so reduced that I need to unleash the inner mole rat and guide myself on the most rudimentary of light signals. Best advice I can give is to just make sure the oncoming headlights are on your right, and the side of the road is on your left, then aim for the gap and don't be afraid to go properly slow if you haven't a clue what's ahead. It's your road as much as it's anyone else's.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

not to say my peen was bigger than yours (or something) but the fog was even worse than that at times :p

tbh even at one point i wondered. Did i actually get hit on the A47, died and the really dense fog is actually me riding through purgatory :p
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Waze, used it to get me around Europe many times.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattyfattyboomboom wrote:
I love Waze, used it to get me around Europe many times.


For a free app Waze is amazing... But my real issue is Waze seems to really lag behind my real time current location... By a good number of meters.

But its not my GPS signal. Google maps seems to be around correct...
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: Had a wonderful (scary) trip today... Reply with quote

NutsyUk wrote:
Was a rather lovely day here in norfolk today, and I decided to take a ride to Norwich, I needed to see how long it would take me and work out the safest way to get there as ill be regularly riding there soon...

Anyway lovely journey there took the B roads sun was out... Really really nice.

While down there I popped into a great motorbike show room shop just south of the city... Ive now pinned what my new bike will be...

It all depends on a few things, and includes work situation down the line. But the new Z650 Kawasaki.... serious <B for that one. But around 5-6 grand new. The z650 is replacing the Er6... Er6 is still on the list as a close second. It all depends on money later in the year.

I applied for a job today. Truth be told I dont expect to get it but if i did. I would be able to afford to buy the bike... At the very least on 9% finance.

I know i know lots of ifs and maybes... But its nice to have something to aim towards.

PS yes I am currently saving for my direct access.

Anyway thats were the fun ended.

On the way back it was starting to get dark, but I was suffering low blood sugar having not eaten a bean all day. So I stopped in at the Mac Ds on the west of Norwich on the A47, was going to top up the tank there too...

Ate by the time I got going it was DARK! and things went from bad to worse. My lid sheild started to mist up. But it wasnt mist i think it was salts. I couldnt rub it clean... Theres me trying to do 60mph on my 125 on a really busy A47 being blinded by oncoming traffic lights... So many people had there high beams on, pissed me right off.

And it still didnt end there. It got foggy.... REALLY foggy. I couldnt see 5 feet in front of me at times. I was going slow and there was people still blasting along at 80... I had to get off the road. I was shitting bricks by this point. Got to Dereham and parked up and fiddled with phones satnav. Tried to get home by the side roads and avoid the A47...

Set a route and followed. Visor up my glasses protecting my eyes from the cold wind (still streaming though) face frozen and im blindly following the satnav. Truth is I dont know the routes all that well. Anyway I come up to a turning and low and behold... It decided on a different route and put me back on the A47 D: ..............

So I was stuck on the A47 again for a few miles and the fog got REALLY bad again. I had to slow down to about 20mph I really couldnt see anything. Waze (i was using waze, need to get a proper thing its shit) showed me a right hand was coming up. Waze being Waze, it seems to lag behind by about 10 or so meters. And I couldnt see the turning... So I had to stop in the middle of the road in the fog, oncoming traffic still coming and me hoping a turning was a few feet in front of me.... Turned out i had missed it, but by only a few meters.

Still....... Not fun. From there I had nice quite side roads all the way home. Still couldnt see shit. I nearly went into a sign on a triangle split...

Got home safe... A little wiser and a few years older. (hearts about to give out)

I didnt panic. But it really was scary.


Have you tried looking at bikes in your area? I only ask as you go from Shipdham (Dave Wicks, a proper old bike shop) to Bradenham then North Pickenham, then home to Swaffham, never touch the 47.....
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 24 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignore faggy fuck face over there because other day he posted some garbage about being on the IOM for the TT back in the 1920's or something or another and constantly changes not only his username but birth date. Bollox to the majority, beside his "i need help" threads, of his posts in truth. Basically ignore the noob comment.

Sounds like you encountered some conditions possibly beyond what you either expected or are comfortable with, all I know is I wasn't there riding alongside so can't really comment but what I will say is that after a couple of winters being billy big balls on a tiddler I'd rather catch the bus and leave the bike for the once a week dry days when you can whizz around to your hearts content. There's no fun in being freezing by the time you get on the bike only to endure an even less joyous commute or ride. Ride when you want to and if the weather permits.

Glasses are a pain in the arse and I switched to contacts because of the fogging up. There's only so many stops at a red light you can deal with before feeling like you're going to rear end someone because you literally can't see bugger all. Contacts aren't for everyone and to be honest I've probably put up with more of them than I should have but the alternative is being blind (a.k.a "no your vision is fine, it's what most drivers are going around with") or glasses, sod that.

I've done small mileage thus far throughout the winter months and a total of one social ride. Can't be arsed.
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PostPosted: 00:54 - 24 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aloysius Parker wrote:
Edit - Just read all of your post sounds like a lot of your problems were down to being a noob.


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PostPosted: 01:53 - 24 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

NutsyUk wrote:
tbh even at one point i wondered. Did i actually get hit on the A47, died and the really dense fog is actually me riding through purgatory :p

Lol! - Takes me straight back to an incredibly ethereal and unique ride, I had circa 1992, at about 3am on an dead straight, unlit country road, devoid of any other traffic.

The fog was like something from a Horror B-Movie, laying dense in the bottom of what I can only presume were the furrows of feudal field strips, a light wind whisping over the top, it was like riding through a sea of Harry-Potter-esque dementors, as the bike lifted the few inches 'out' of the furows and then fell back into them, where it was so thick I could barely make out anything but my arms and the lights in the clocks; in an slightly more luminous 'glow' of the headlamps, which as the bike lifted on the next ridge, sort of started to tear in the lamps, then reveal the ghouls as the lamps approached the surface, and they tore, urfled, parted and seemed to wrap themselves around me, before I descended again into the cauldron of supernatural soup! Most bizarre!

Just before I reached Coventry, the road went through an ancient village, on a slight rise; As I approached, dark shaddowy figures started to loom into the margins of the fringes of the glow, then seem to dart into it, as if reaching out to me, or trying to grab me, and then... suddenly... was an old normal church.. almost detached, dissembodied, dropped into the misty sea surrounding me, a square Norman steeple, almost alive, resolving itself, and revealing a church-yard around it's base, a higgledy piggeldy stone wall, and grave stones behind, making me jolt, as it rushed towards me, and I had to swerve to avoid it, and the darkness again tried to devour me, before a half timbered old mannor house, similarly resolved itself into my path, and I again had to swerve to avoid it's ivy covered wall, and suddenly the road snatched me away to the right, into dark tunnel of trees, which the mist seemed unable to penatrate.... and THEN... felt as though I was falling, falling falling, an orange omnipresence looming larger and larger and larger, AND...... I was sucked into the light...... Which a the shadows gave up their clutches, revealed itself as the mundane, sodium lit round-about over the M6.. and the 'dream' ended.. no trace to be seen, even in the mirrors, the spell broken as I rode over the motorway bridge, by the soft roar of the trucks passing beneath me...

ShPOOKie!

Never encountered anything like it since.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 24 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good job on not dying.

Your visor is likely fogging on the inside. RainPal would have saved your life. If it has pinlock posts (two small nubs sticking through it), I'd recommend fitting a Pinlock insert. If not, a "Fog City" (or equivalent) self adhesive insert would be my second choice.
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 24 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Albigularis wrote:
Aloysius Parker wrote:
Edit - Just read all of your post sounds like a lot of your problems were down to being a noob.


https://farm1.static.flickr.com/98/206636171_0021c26a2e_m.jpg


That's not fair, all of DocCockSocket's problems are down to him being a cunt.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 24 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: Had a wonderful (scary) trip today... Reply with quote

Dave-G wrote:
I'd like to retire to Yarmouth, lovely place. Great roads to ride on, M6, A14, A11 and A47..


For one moment I thought you were serious Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 24 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: Had a wonderful (scary) trip today... Reply with quote

NutsyUk wrote:

Got home safe....


That`s the important bit Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 24 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: Had a wonderful (scary) trip today... Reply with quote

NutsyUk wrote:
... im blindly following the satnav. Truth is I dont know the routes all that well. Anyway I come up to a turning and low and behold... It decided on a different route and put me back on the A47 D:


This is the problem I'm having with Google Maps, their routes are always based on being in a car stuck in traffic (fair enough, I guess they don't want to encourage filtering or they don't care for motorcycles) and so only show the "quickest" 3 routes. I can't get it to show me alternative routes which I know I'd be able to get done quicker
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 24 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

NutsyUk wrote:

But its not my GPS signal. Google maps seems to be around correct...


gps will be fine, it's usually the map cache, if you plan a route in google maps it will cache the map between the points, not sure if waze does this.

waze is better because it has speed cameras and usually better routes, but google maps is better as it does lane guidance.

fog was bad yesterday, saw 2 pileups on the m25 and another on the m1 Confused
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 24 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: Had a wonderful (scary) trip today... Reply with quote

I was using Waze in the van yesterday - it was pretty much dead on with it's GPS for turnings in the fog. (Ok, for the most part it wasn't too bad.)
Also, the traffic stuff saved me twice from nasty jams.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 24 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL Mike great story, reminds me of The Raven by Edgar Poe...

But yeah its really strange... And scary, as i said I had to really slow down tbh i think 20mph was a exasperation of how fast i was going i think i even was going 10 at times.

And Roger yep got a pinlock anti fog up on the way... But i do think a lot of the issue with my visor was salt... i rub the inside too when I pulled up at a parking slip road and it wouldnt come off... Tbh prolly a mixture of everything.

Oh and still plenty of idiots on the road too... (and yeah maybe im one of them :p ) but i discovered loads of people dont signal when coming off round abouts... Really wound me up as I was trying to come into one but I couldnt tell if the path was safe or not simply because loads of people didnt signal. (this was before the fog)

but Golly, that Z650 I saw in the shop.... I wants it!!!! The only single thing I didnt like about it. One thing........ The tail light. They got the leds arranged in a the slashy Z shape of the new brand. And that seems really really naff. but everything else about that bike is just beautiful to me.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 24 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why a Z650 over an MT-07? Not that it's a bad choice, I'm just wondering.
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 24 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds scary but you find waysnro deal with these things as you gain experience. Fog is always crap though, not much you can do except slow down and be as visible as possible.

FWIW I like my er6, it makes a fantastic commuter and can be plenty fun at the weekend but I'm not sure I'd want to spend 6k on one... Sadly whilst they were adding other unnecessary toys (slipper clutch...) Kawasaki don't appear to have fixed what IMO is the er6's biggest flaw - its suspension. The seat is also useless for pillion purposes now too, not that it was great to begin with. Good everyday bike otherwise though.
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