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bigdom86
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 31 Jan 2017    Post subject: foot pump and puncture repair Reply with quote

right, got another puncture today, luckily my friends garage is a 15min ride so can fix it relatively quickly but its still a pain in the ass.

i am looking to buy a decent footpump for my bike and also a decent puncture repair kit, the weird string type which they use at tyre garages.

will keep this in my garage in the event i find a nail sticking out of my tyre.

any suggestions on a pump and puncture repair kit? or just whatever basic one i can find on the bay

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PostPosted: 10:50 - 31 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll enjoy trying to get the bead to seat with a footpump.
The string stuff is OK though, I've had a tyre leak free for more than two years after plugging with it.
A footpump might be OK for a slight top up after checking at home.
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 31 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pump, whatevz.

Plug kit, I prefer Stop and Go mushroom plugs to string. I've had a gaping hole swallow my long rubber worm, but when I shoved my fat little mushroom in it, it stoppered it right up.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 31 Jan 2017    Post subject: re Reply with quote

living in London, if i stay out of hatched areas I may aswell be driving a car Crying or Very sad

i am avoiding certain hatched areas though when I can see a shitload of gravel in them.

so the general consensus would be, little hole use my worm, big hole use rogerborg's mushroom tip.

and to do this at a petrol station to use the high pressure pumps then if needed topup at home
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 31 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the tyre actually off the rim of the wheel?

This the most successful method I've used for seating tyres:
ratchet strap around the circumference of tyre to squash the tyre and push the edges out onto the rim,
remove valve core,
blast air in from a compressor tank.

If the tyre is still on the rim, just plug it and pump it up.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 31 Jan 2017    Post subject: re Reply with quote

i have not had a catastrophic puncture where the tyre is off the rim, if I did I would join RAC or whoever else is about these days.

it has always been a plug and pump type of puncture
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 31 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Pump, whatevz.

Plug kit, I prefer Stop and Go mushroom plugs to string. I've had a gaping hole swallow my long rubber worm, but when I shoved my fat little mushroom in it, it stoppered it right up.


this Thumbs Up

also just be aware of nail entry angle, straight in is usually fine, if it's at a weird angle the mushrooms struggle to seal inside sometimes.
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 31 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

bigdom86 wrote:
i have not had a catastrophic puncture where the tyre is off the rim, if I did I would join RAC or whoever else is about these days.

it has always been a plug and pump type of puncture


Should be pretty straight forward then, I was just wondering because of doggones comment.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 31 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

bigdom86 wrote:
I would join RAC or whoever else is about these days.

Why don't bikers like taking out breakdown cover Smile You sometimes get it with your insurance but if you don't it's only £30 a year, it's worth it not to have to leave your bike broken at the side of the road, accruing parking tickets or the attention of pikeys.

Not massively experienced in this area, one puncture, plugged with stop and go mushroom which does an ok job at holding air but needs to be kept an eye on (and pumped up every few days). Personally I kinda wish for the price of the kit I'd got a new tyre.
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 31 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
Why don't bikers like taking out breakdown cover.......


Because we're rufty tufty bikers and believe we can either fix it there and then or push our stricken steed, over hill and dale, back home, or to the nearest garage, without incurring a hernia/heart attack/slipped disc/rupture or incur the wrath of plod!

We're hard as nails us! Wink
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 31 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
Not massively experienced in this area, one puncture, plugged with stop and go mushroom which does an ok job at holding air but needs to be kept an eye on (and pumped up every few days). Personally I kinda wish for the price of the kit I'd got a new tyre.


But you've still got the kit to fix more punctures, whereas a new tyre only fixes one.

Where the kit (and a pump on the bike) really come in useful is when you come to go home on the bike and find the tyre flat. Five minutes faff and you are rolling, compared to waiting an hour or two for the breakdown people to come out in rush hour.
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 31 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
Why don't bikers like taking out breakdown cover Smile


We have all had breakdown cover, used it, sat a the road for 4+ hours waiting for some incompetent cunt to arrive and say, oh no its a bike, have to call out the recovery truck, without even a look at the problem, and another 4 hours wait. In my case, they could not verifiy the fact I had paid extra with my insurance, tried to charge me an extra 120 quid then abandoned me at a petrol station when I would not pay it. I do have it though, just incase.

String kit. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222236364345
12v compressors, as available in poundworld for 4 quid, or ebay for 7 quid, do an excellent job of fitting under seat - remove the plastic, and are able to pop a good fitting bead to the rim if replacing the tire.


M.C wrote:
... stop and go mushroom (and pumped up every few days) failing


Pull the tire and do it properly. The kits are only temporary it does not take long. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131606374256
You will need a few other items, but not expensive, and described in another thread...
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 31 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:
M.C wrote:
Why don't bikers like taking out breakdown cover Smile


We have all had breakdown cover, used it, sat a the road for 4+ hours waiting for some incompetent cunt to arrive and say, oh no its a bike, have to call out the recovery truck, without even a look at the problem, and another 4 hours wait.


who then drops your bike off the trailer as he doesn't know how to use the wheel chock properly
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 31 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:
The kits are only temporary it does not take long.

There are enough people on this forum who do use them as a permanent fix. I was just pointing out they don't always work. I understand the benefits of the kits for people who carry them with a pump (I don't personally).
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PostPosted: 07:40 - 01 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arcane1729 wrote:
oh haha just the thread I was looking for


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PostPosted: 10:04 - 01 Feb 2017    Post subject: re Reply with quote

well I have now plugged two punctures with the worm string things at my friends garage no issues so far, last one was around 4,000 miles ago and still going ok
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 01 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave-G wrote:
I keep a Stop and go kit on the GPZ along with one of these https://goo.gl/Pu0lWf


with that RAC compressor sorry my noobness, can that be connected to the lighter socket in a car?

currently I am only riding in london so if i have a slow flat I can quite easily get it to a petrol station, friends garage or to my home.

however if/when i move a bit futher out and start motorway riding I will probably join a recovery company. i have never been a member of one in my 13 years on the road though (car)
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 01 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave-G wrote:
Yes it can but it fits on your battery terminals, lift seat off GPZ and clip onto the battery.

Or lift the tank on an MT-03 Brick Wall I was actually wondering where/how you connected them, I thought everyone must have been using cigarette adaptors Neutral
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 01 Feb 2017    Post subject: re Reply with quote

i have no idea where the battery is on my bike so would most likely just use the cars cigarette lighter
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 01 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
Why don't bikers like taking out breakdown cover Smile

Some bikers also own a fuckoff great big van. Thumbs Up
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