What do you think should come standard on everybike?

[LewisFaeScotl...]

As the heading states.

I feel that all bikes should come with as standard:
- Braided Brake lines
- LED headlights
- Decent Tyres
- GPS tracker or Keyless immobiliser

I also feel bikes should be given the option of:
- Heated Grips
- Automatic chain oiler
- Bobbins
- Some sort of storage
- Lithium battery


Interested in your thoughts listed in a similar manner

Thanks

[thx1138]

only what the minimum requirement to be road legal is should be standard, plus a couple of common sense extras, like stands, else things become compulsory, and compulsion means state control and expenses go up

[M.C]

Definitely not ABS.

[owl]

They could definitely implement a tracker for not much additional cost with a year or 2 subs thrown in if they partnered with someone like biketrac

I was surprised to learn that the mt09 comes with a QS as standard what a treat
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[LewisFaeScotl...]

[LewisFaeScotl...]

[CaNsA]

Rainpal is a scam

[owl]

[M.C]

[owl]

[M.C]

Exactly I'm not perfect, in fact I'm an extremely flawed human being, and yet I've never locked up on a motorbike...

[owl]

Good for you... maybe one day you'll need it and it won't be there...

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[Rogerborg]

Fork gaiters, huggers or shock shrouds, and a front mudguard that actually guards the bike against mud.
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[M.C]

[owl]

I've ridden for quite awhile and this is the first bike I've had with ABS, which I considered necessary for the douchary that is London. Never had an issue before.

Maybe one day when it's wet and slippery and someone pulls out on you and you grab that handful of brake in a panic and things go wrong you'll understand. Until then keep up being your perfect self
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[M.C]

[thx1138]

on my sertao the bloody thing was always kicking in, bloody annoying.

[Azoth]

Beer flask with flexible drinking hose, like a distance runner's water bottle, attaching to the tank for when you're waiting at the lights. You don't have to fill it with beer but it should come as standard.

Single seat, because pillions on bikes nowadays (not counting pikey thieves on T-Max scooters) are a very rare sight - and frequently an ornament that gets less charming with every passing year in which tweaking and other lewd exhibitionist female behaviours are normalised while elegance and feminine mystery recede (lol I'm glad I enemied that prick who said I was a misogynist) - and single seat bikes can perform better and usually look better as well. Not to mention that the extra space could be used to hold a cool little rack upon which you could hoist a soft bag that would look much less lame than a topbox. What use is a bike if you can't get away by yourself and be a loner for a couple of hours? Single-seaters should be the norm in this market. Why sell me a bike with a pillion seat and pillion footrests? I don't plan to let anyone sit on it but me. I can understand pillion seats for the Far East, but here you might as well supply new bikes with a sidecar as standard. Pointless because nobody uses them...

Remote immobilisation as an anti-bikejacking measure - perhaps a wristband that fires a wireless signal that shuts down the bike once a code is entered, and which can't be undone from the wristband. Maybe enough to let you catch up to the bike before it gets too far out of town.

Much, much flatter bars. Look at Yamaha, Kawasaki, KTM and all the other tanks. All ergonomic, and yet the bars on new bikes are cruiserghey because the manufacturers know we'll swap them anyway?
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[owl]

@M.C you're probably right, it's difficult to explain and probably psychological but it feels safer to me. I'll admit when I was testing it, I shat myself when it kicked in for the first time, but occasionally now I'll test the biting point and to be fair on the street you really do have to be quite ham fisted for it to engage. The two times I've used it in an actually emergency stop were both in wet cold freezing conditions (which I'm not at all used to) and I was probably progressing too aggressively, tired and poor vis and poor obs. So yes maybe I do need a course on how to ride in shit cold slippery weather.

I've done #baklyf I mean bike safe, but no mention of ABS or even braking really.

Also new abs systems usually weigh less than 1kg, I'll put on more than that over lunch
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[Enduro Numpty]

Heated grips are a worthwhile addition to any bike. Even better if they're fitted as standard.

Regarding ABS - On balance I think it's worth having but am strongly against compulsory fitting.

[andyscooter]

12 volt socket



and a cup holder
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[Dave70]

A scottoiler or some similar device.

Heated grips.

A decent cover.

Also, rocket launchers, for when Mr or Mrs idiot pulls out on you.
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[Snowdonia Rider]

Rear hugger, clock, proper mudguard so no more fucking around with fenda extendas. Remote shutdown would be great, yeah the bike would get damaged but think of the joy watching/knowing that fucker went over the handlebars
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[grr666]

Heated grips should be on every bike.
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[bamt]

As standard should have wheels, an engine, something to sit on, something to hold onto, something to let you control it and something to hold all that lot together.


There are things that I'd always prefer to have on a bike - heated grips, decent luggage mounts that can carry a reasonable weight, good lights, power for my comms stuff, immobiliser, ABS. But should they be standard on all? No.

They wouldn't be right for many riders (summer day sportsbike riders, Mrs Bamt on her little Virago enjoying a nice weather bimble), and would compromise design, weight, performance and maybe reliability (immobilisers and alarms being notoriously unreliable, ABS adding complexity that may not be needed).

Then if you start specifying that e.g. braided hoses MUST be fitted, you end up on a slippery slope where you regulate every aspect of the bike and reduce the ability of manufacturers to try different things and innovate.