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Feral Kid
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 09 Mar 2017    Post subject: Waterproof trousers for summer for under £150 Reply with quote

Can anyone recommend a waterproof pair of trousers for summer time, for not more than £150? Something that you won't be boiling in when riding during hot weather. I was thinking about Alpinestars Andes Drystar, but they they are recommended for 3 seasons, but not summer. Also I'm thinking about much cheaper pair of Spada Milan. Anyone has worn these two?
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 09 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want textile, leather or kevlar jeans with over layers?

What type of riding will you be doing, ie: are you commuting or are you walking around a lot?
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 09 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Textile. I would be interested also in kevlar jeans if you could get them waterproof. Mainly commuting in the city + quite a lot of walking too
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 09 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feral Kid wrote:
Textile. I would be interested also in kevlar jeans if you could get them waterproof. Mainly commuting in the city + quite a lot of walking too


If it's hot you do not want kevlar jeans...... While they are OK when moving, so great if going for a blast on the bike and nothing else As soon as you stop or get off the bike. You start sweating like a....

Personally for commuting in summer I got a cheap pair of over trousers (sub £10)that are more like plastic than anything else. But as they are only for riding on the bike in the rain and nothing else, then the moving air keeps you cool.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 09 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:

Personally for commuting in summer I got a cheap pair of over trousers (sub £10)that are more like plastic than anything else. But as they are only for riding on the bike in the rain and nothing else, then the moving air keeps you cool.


Look like a prick but stay dry.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 09 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
If it's hot you do not want kevlar jeans...... While they are OK when moving, so great if going for a blast on the bike and nothing else As soon as you stop or get off the bike. You start sweating like a....


Couldn't be more confused by that comment if I tried.

Kevlar jeans are perfect for the summer commute or hoon and no different from wearing any other pair of bottoms walking down the road on a warm day.

Kevlar's my go to if I'm popping into town and walking around not wanting to feel like I'm going to fall on the floor and faint as soon as I leave the car park and make it to street level.

Feral Kid wrote:
Textile. I would be interested also in kevlar jeans if you could get them waterproof.


Depends how much money your going to spend as my kevlar jeans are cheapo whatever I wanted at the time rather than expensive well known brand, for the limited use they get the small kevlar and cheap price is perfect. That's in regards to build quality as opposed to if waterproof or not. At worst RST do an overproof layer that's cheap and just chuck at the bottom of the tailbag worst comes to it. Never happened because kevlar jeans only get cobwebs dusted of on the longest and warmest of days.

J&S, or my local, do a rack of kevlar jeans for cheap all year round and is just a case of buying what you like the look of.

Look out if your jacket manufacture do a belt loop. RST do and I keep mine attached so all I do when I chuck the jeans on is zip them up and jobs a gooden.

Textile I had a pair of RST Blade's but seems there's a second version. Removable thermal layer and did the job although eventually leaked and got replaced.

I'm currently wearing the RST pro stuff and can't see myself needing to full-fill or splash cash or new gear any time soon because is 4 seasons and more lightweight, with all layers removed, than any other jackets I've got.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 09 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.dainese.me.uk/motorcycle/textile-clothing-51/gore-tex-pants/dainese-new-galveston-gore-tex-trouser.html

over your price limit but meet all your needs

goretex is better than drystar, more breathable so better comfort in summer, these come with a remove-able liner so leave it in for winter and whip it out in the summer
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 10 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty certain that unless your textiles are Goretex ... they will leak.
Maybe not now, maybe now tomorrow ... but one day, when you least suspect it Laughing

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Your best bet is an over-jacket style thing.
It's a pain having to carry it around & you have to preempt the weather. However they are cheaper than replacing a set of riding kit (jacket & trousers)
Although I've heard good things about the RST blade textiles, I will be replacing my old Ghost motorbike textiles with those soon Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:47 - 10 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogue_Shadow wrote:
Although I've heard good things about the RST blade textiles, I will be replacing my old Ghost motorbike textiles with those soon Thumbs Up


Might be able to get a deal on the first gen since looks like second gen has come out of nowhere.

First gen trousers lasted until they didn't. Gave way, out the blue, round the crotch area during a commute and got replaced and have gathered dust ever since.

Jacket was still good at the time the trousers gave way but haven't used in a while so can't say.

Could grab a deal depending on waist size.
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PostPosted: 03:14 - 10 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need goretex to be waterproof, not even a bit.

People get wrapped up about it and it is brilliant, but wellies and condoms are not made of Goretex and they are pretty waterproof, or so I have been told.

What makes Goretex pretty much unique is being fully (at least initially) waterproof, and being able to 'breath'. Being able to breath means they can feel cooler, an alternative to which is buy a thinner pair of trousers, or ride faster, equally good options.

Personally I wear a pair of hood kevlar jeans and I have an all in one wet suit thing that wraps up inside of itself into a bag, that goes on the rear seat, so if and whenever I need it, I just have to pull over and, well, pull it over. Works great, doesn't let any water through, only costs a tenner, and means you can get much better value for money on your kit IMO. (for instance compare the quality of a £170 goretex pair of trousers and a non goretex pair for the same price). Just make sure you go a size up, they will say they come up big already, and you will try it on in the shop, and it will fit, but trying to get it on at night in the cold and wet is a much bigger challenge, that is helped by the extra size.
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PostPosted: 06:59 - 10 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commuter_Tim wrote:

Pocketses. Thumbs Down

Or rather, pocketses flapses. Fine for walking. Riding into rain, not so much, since they face forwards. You can try wearing them backwards, but I'd find something without gaping gashes.
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 10 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Between RST Blade 2 and Alpinestars Drystar Andes; which one would be better for summer?
And I'm thinking about getting a pair of kevlar jeans and carry a pair of waterproof trousers with me, that I could put on top of them in case of a rain. What are good brands for kevlar jeans and how much a decent pair would cost?
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 10 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a pair of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-BRITISH-ARMY-ISSUE-MTP-CAMO-MVP-WATERPROOF-OVER-TROUSERS-GORETEX-M-32-/262883836515 to throw over my Hood kevlar jeans when it rains.

Not the height of style but breathable, totally waterproof including hours on the motorway in "fuck can't see 5ft in front of me" rain and they have full length zips up the legs so easy to throw on over boots also means you can get to your pockets but don't have holes flapping about letting water piss in.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 10 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feral Kid wrote:
RST Blade 2


I doubt anyone, unless super keen, could actually comment on that particular pair in consideration they're new out. Any reviews are probably one time wearers froffing at the penile end in excitement.

Based upon the first gen they're fine but don't have any vents. Plus black and heat is something to keep in mind even more so if you're walking around a lot although again, ime, it effects me more having a roasting upper body than lower.

As above if I was going to buy now in your situation I'd go RST Pro Series Adventure 2 because bargain for that price. If they've got your size in that is.

I find my RST Pro Series Adventure Jacket the go to in all weathers because with the waterproof layer removed it feels lighter, and cooler with vents open, than any other gear I own. That being said it depends if you could cope with the whole "remove inner waterproof lining and thermal layer" faff.

First gen RST Blade was a lightweight step up that got the job done fine for a while.

Now you've got some products in mind go visit J&S or whatever's local.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 10 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
iooi wrote:
If it's hot you do not want kevlar jeans...... While they are OK when moving, so great if going for a blast on the bike and nothing else As soon as you stop or get off the bike. You start sweating like a....


Couldn't be more confused by that comment if I tried.

Kevlar jeans are perfect for the summer commute or hoon and no different from wearing any other pair of bottoms walking down the road on a warm day.


I agree, negativity about Kevlar is confusing and incorrect.

I wear mine for summer touring as well and just throw a pair of over-trousers/waterproofs in for rain.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 10 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Commuter_Tim wrote:

Pocketses. Thumbs Down

Or rather, pocketses flapses. Fine for walking. Riding into rain, not so much, since they face forwards. You can try wearing them backwards, but I'd find something without gaping gashes.


Contact Adhesivses. Thumbs Up

I agree though, I had almost forgotten it was a huge problem for me until the 5 minute fix.
I've been alternating 2 glued up pairs every day it rains for years.
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PostPosted: 01:51 - 12 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

A* Andes kit is a very slim cut, does not work for my rugby thighs. I've had the original RST Blade trousers for just over a year and they have been reliaby waterproof and tolerable in the little heatwave last summer in which I did many miles wearing a Ventilator jacket and said jeans.

Better perhaps are IXS Tromso trousers, they have some vents, but I'd go with whatever zips into your jacket. Stopping trousers from sliding down and jackets from riding up tends to make the waterproofing actually work rather than just soak your tshirt, which then wicks water everywhere inside.
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PostPosted: 07:42 - 12 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

My winter kit is goretex leather, summer is vented leathers with a plastic jacket and army goretex trousers to go over.
I have a pair of kevlar jeans but I don't find them much cooler than the leathers. The leathers have stretch panels which helps cooling too, while the jeans have a lining all the way through. Walking around town I don't find much difference.
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PostPosted: 08:09 - 12 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commuter_Tim wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
Or rather, pocketses flapses.

Contact Adhesivses. Thumbs Up

And staples. Been there, bodged that. But something to look out for.
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 12 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use these over normal Kevlar jeans etc. No pocket flaps to seal up, ankle zips for going over boots. £8, so disposable when they eventually go on you.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351801669058
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 12 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about Spada Milan trousers? Are they any good for summer? Has anyone used them? Is Spada a good brand?
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