Training prices (UPDATE: Sorted)

[samkent6]

Hi all! I have just done my theory test and called up my local training centre to book mod 1. They've no lessons available until the 5th of April. My test is pencilled in for the 19th April with a 2hour seasion at their training facilities between the 5th and 14th, and then on the Saturday (15th) at the actual test centre to practice the high speed manoeuvres. (This is 3 hours) so in total 5 hours training

I'm a complete novice to motorcycling, I've completed my CBT and that's it, I don't have my own bike as I am going to wait until I have my full licence. Is 5 hours enough for a novice rider to pass mod 1? They've priced it at £295.50 including test fee, bike and helmet hire. But obviously if I need more training then it's going to cost a lot more. Inputs? Is this a steep price?

EDIT: I now have a 2 hour ride with the new training school on March 31st for them to assess my ability and from there if they think I'm ready for the A2 machine then I will be progressing onto the 3 day course which is £635 including both test fees and bike hire.

[Aky208]

I would say not.
I had three full days training, all concurrant and I still felt uneasy about my skill level, before the test.
I payed nearly £700 which incuded my CBT, theory test, 3 full days training (9-4) and bike hire for test day.

[Rogerborg]

Adding on a couple of hours for the test and (I'd certainly hope) a pre-test refresher, that's £280 for essentially one day of training (the test itself is only £15.50). That's steep, even if it were 1:1.

Is it 1:1? Or are you going to be on a crowded pad with a bunch of other trainees, spending more time standing around watching them than practising?

It's also a big ask to do it with that little training. It is achievable, though. Mod 1 is a series of fairly simple manoeuvres which you only have to do right once, on the day. I do believe that it's possible to over-train for it and turn it into something that it isn't.

However, splitting those 5 hours over 2 days, with gaps between them and your test, and you having no bike to practice on, urgh, no thanks.

I'd be checking out other training schools, or maybe even independent instructors. It's your money, and if you don't like the deal, take it elsewhere.
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[samkent6]

[Bozzy]

It sounds like a lot to take in within a short amount of time.

When I did DAS, we had 3 full days training in close proximity. Day 1 was riding around on a 650 to get a feel for riding a big bike. Day 2 was MOD1 training. I sat MOD1 the day after when it had all digested overnight. After passing this, we then did a full day MOD2 training followed by the test the next day.

I'm sure I would have failed if I'd had any less training than that. Although we all learn at different speeds and you may pick it up quicker than I did.
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[samkent6]

[Rogerborg]

[pinkyfloyd]

I would say it would depend, I could probably get you through your tests in that amount of time. It'd be hard work and you'd be exhausted with the intensity of the training but I could probably do it.

I would not do it however because I would feel responsible for not actually teaching you how to ride. Every single one of us here who has a full licence will agree, test and riding ability are 2 very different things. The school I work for has a policy, we teach you to ride.

My advice, spend the extra money on a Direct Access course at another school, shop around and do a 3 day course.
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[samkent6]

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[Rogerborg]

Cheerfully corrected.

Still a bit curious that you have to be a "direct access scheme" instructor to accompany someone training for progressive access though.

Perhaps a better name for it would be "big bike instructor" or just "instructor" since they already distinguish between "CBT instructor", and "Whatever Teflon Mike Was".

They're talking about doing away with the distinction between "DAS" and "CBT" instructors. I wonder if they'll bear to be parted from the name then.
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[pinkyfloyd]

[samkent6]

[Rogerborg]

[pinkyfloyd]