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PostPosted: 22:13 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Going to buy a different 125cc motorcycle Aprilia RS? Reply with quote

I think the junk skyjet sj125 is getting dumped this week and im going to buy a new bike. Well not a brand new but a new one for me.

The Aprilia RS 125 has really caught my eye. It just has such good looks for such a small bike but my research shows these little 2 strokes are unreliable.

Most of the 2004-2010 models seem to have 6000 or less miles on the clocks. This is not much and makes me think they might not be suitable for my riding needs.

So just how reliable are these bikes? what sort of miles can you get out of them before needing a rebuild realistically?

I ride about 20 miles a day to and from work. And each weekend i do a 80 to 100 mile round trip because my girlfriend lives a fair distance away. Would the RS even stand up to this sort of usage?

Any other recommendations for a sporty looking bike that will withstand these sort of conditions? Im going to be keeping it a while so i do care about how it looks.

Please, anything that can get over 50mph. Its fucking embarassing being stuck at 50 on 70 roads Shocked
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you looking at 125s because you're on a CBT? If so the RS125 isn't legal so you may as well get a busa.
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The RS125 is learner legal in restricted form, although a lot are derestricted.

Reliability wise, depends how you treat them. Think the service schedule says to check the rings every 8000km (5000 miles). To do that properly really requires stripping the top end of the engine, so you may as well replace them. New rings are cheap, but a ring failing can easily snap and trash the barrel.

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:20 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

SophR so good wrote:
Are you looking at 125s because you're on a CBT? If so the RS125 isn't legal so you may as well get a busa.


Restricted mate not full power. I know the full power aprilia far exceeds the legal allowances of a CBT. But in restricted form it should be legal and produce much better performance than the damn skyjet. But the question is reliability?
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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The RS125 is learner legal in restricted form, although a lot are derestricted.

Reliability wise, depends how you treat them. Think the service schedule says to check the rings every 8000km (5000 miles). To do that properly really requires stripping the top end of the engine, so you may as well replace them. New rings are cheap, but a ring failing can easily snap and trash the barrel.

All the best

Katy


Wont be risking losing my CBT anytime soon! So i would keep it restricted.

So going from the service schedule the bike really should be stripped and the rings changed every 5000 miles. That would work out about once a year with the current distance i travel maybe twice.

How common is it for these rings to fail in between checking them every 5000 miles?

Thanks for your help!
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you want to ride the motorcycle or spend some quality time in your garage rebuilding it all the time? Thinking

Word of wisdom; run premix only, disable the oil pump. Thank me later. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Do you want to ride the motorcycle or spend some quality time in your garage rebuilding it all the time? Thinking


If its likely to need rebuilding more than twice a year then its a no go i think. When you say rebuilding it all the time are we talking a couple times a year or weekly? lol.

I know you can never look great on a 125 but i would like for whatever i choose to look the best it can considering i think its going to stay for a while. As i need to resit my car test and that will all need doing before going for a full license on a motorcycle.
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Do you want to ride the motorcycle or spend some quality time in your garage rebuilding it all the time? Thinking

Word of wisdom; run premix only, disable the oil pump. Thank me later. Thumbs Up

Didn't your friend seize an engine but not 'pre-mixing'? Smile

Yeah you're basically going from an unreliable chinese bike to an unreliable Italian bike. As it'll be restricted anyway get a full powah 4-stroke.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Changing the rings is a gentle afternoons work, although personally I would do then at 6000km (having had them fail at not much more than that).

As to the oil pump, no way would I run premix instead. Done a lot of miles on 2 strokes and never had a pump fail, but at least with a pump I don't have to worry about the engine getting virtually no oil when the throttle is closed.

Tbh, the big advantage is the performance and restricted you are missing out on that.

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:45 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it's an Italian two stroke, that once was the go to bike for all the boy racers out there. Razz

A two stroke is a nice novelty, but not very practical. A CG 125 would make a better commuter + cheaper to run and maintain. If you still want a two stroke, try one of the finest Soviet era two strokes from the DDR and Czechoslovakia. Those do not require much to keep the good times roll.

But, I'm gonna tell you this, if you want a RS 125, buy one (or a NSR 125). Life is too short to be reasonable all the time and the odds are it'll be just fine. Don't mess up the petrol-oil mix ratio (I would disconect the automatic lube system and run premix). Let it warm up before you rev the tits out of it and just have fun. Thumbs Up

* A CZ/Jawa/MZ would take much more abuse before the engine would stop. Plus, spares are so cheap it's even not worth it buying used ones. MZ is the best of those 3, suspension and brakes wise.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might as well get another 4T 125 but one of the 'faster' ( less slow ) ones such as a Yamaha WR/YZF 125, CBR 125,KTM duke or even an Aprilia RS4 125 if you want.
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Don't mess up the petrol-oil mix ratio (I would disconect the automatic lube system and run premix).


Disconnecting the automatic lube system is pretty much guaranteeing that the petrol / oil mix will be messed up. For zero benefit.

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:03 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Re: Going to buy a different 125cc motorcycle Aprilia RS? Reply with quote

This post suggest that you have no interest in getting your hands dirty.

CBR125 or if your budget stretches to it, a YZF-R125.

Nothing looks that sporty with L plates on it.

Of course, if you're 19+ then the answer is to get a licence and a bigger bike. Anything else is just wasting time and money.
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:


Word of wisdom; run premix only, disable the oil pump. Thank me later. Thumbs Up


Rhyno, please pipe down regarding subjects you have little experience of.

There is no advantage in converting a bike that runs automatic oiling to premix unless you are racing it or tuning the bollocks off it.

Oil pumps very rarely fail, but engines that are not correctly set up to run premix do. Also they tend to clog up at low speed, billow out blue smoke when not being thrashed and demand the owner carries a litre of 2t and a measuring pot everywhere.

My current project is premix but that's for performance reasons, not perceived failings with the oil pump which has worked fine for the past eight years.
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Beat me to it ^^

Do not disable the oil pump and run premix unless you a a very experienced 2 stroke mechanic or stupid. Which you aren't either, are you. Cool
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 14 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I wanted to ride 200miles plus a week and needed daily dependability and with little maintenance, or I didn't fancy too much spanners, or didn't know what I was doing with them, I'd avoid an RS125 Aprilia personally.

An RS4 125 looks similar and will be a better go to commuter and one that makes full use of the legal 15bhp limit and the 70-75mph performance.

An RS125 these days would be a nice novelty/weekend/ second bike, or a classic to restore or fettle in your spare time. Its no different to the way people use bikes like KR1's and RGV250's today. They are pampered project or fun weekend bikes, and none runs a scabby crashed one as daily transport on a budget anymore.

Oh and a restricted 125 two stroke is generally a bad idea, as you get poor performance, and just as much maintenance taking into account stuff like clogged up sticky power valves and exhausts, and they don't run fantastically yet are still relatively poor on fuel.

If I were doing a short commute and perversely wanted a maintenance intensive 125 two stroke, I'd rather have an even more short fused bike like a KTM motard, if I was going to be working on it in all my spare time.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 17 Mar 2017    Post subject: Re: Going to buy a different 125cc motorcycle Aprilia RS? Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
This post suggest that you have no interest in getting your hands dirty.

CBR125 or if your budget stretches to it, a YZF-R125.

Nothing looks that sporty with L plates on it.

Of course, if you're 19+ then the answer is to get a licence and a bigger bike. Anything else is just wasting time and money.


I ended up buying a YZF-R125 and wow what a fucking difference! Very Happy

Just with the Skyjet SJ125 and YZF-R125 sat next to each other in the shed you can really see the difference. Just the quality of the body panels alone is superb.

Can feel it most when riding just the changing gears is so smooth. And im no longer skidding like crazy when coming to a stop at the lights lol.

Thanks for everyones recommendations.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 17 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huzzah, that's more like it.

You're 17, right?
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 17 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Huzzah, that's more like it.

You're 17, right?


'Untitled1995' Rolling Eyes

21 mate why? lol.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 17 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Untitled1995 wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
Huzzah, that's more like it.

You're 17, right?


'Untitled1995' Rolling Eyes

21 mate why? lol.


Why not a2 and 600
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 17 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:


Why not a2 and 600


Because i need to do a retest and get a car mate. I love bikes and will probably spend the majority of my time on them rather than a car even after i get my car license back. But due to work commitments i do need something with 4 wheels. Its gonna cost me a fair bit to get my car license and insurance,

Im planning to do it as follows

CBT (current) > Car License > A2

I do also own a Ninja 600 but its been sat for over a year. As was going to do my A2 last year but for legal issues never got round to it. So really i wasn't that worried about spending a bit on the 125 because i know that I've got a bike already lined up for when i do my A2. Besides i doubt the YZF will lose much value over 5 to 6 months.

And not trusting myself on a 600 is also a consideration at the moment Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 18 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're planning to ride a ZX-6R on an A2 license then you might as well go out and ride it right now, because it will be every bit as legal.
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 18 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your the chap that thought that a Supra Turbo with the limiter disabled and the wick turned up n the blower, was a Cheap, Reliable, Daily drver, till you lost your licence, aren't you?

Aprillia RS125... go for it...... by your standards, its a real race bike for the road, for pocket money prices...

And as the lesson of the not-so super Supra, you wont be told, you will only learn the hard way... so go learn....

Just checl uot how many parts are in the exploded schematcs of the engine, and how many of them are marked up as 'Service replacement' with a Km replacement interval along side them.

You wont take the hint, ad will be sure you wont need them, or you can get patern replacements or hop up bits more cheaply.... self delusion is well ingrained, I think..... but you wont be able to say we didn't warn you.
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 18 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
If you're planning to ride a ZX-6R on an A2 license then you might as well go out and ride it right now, because it will be every bit as legal.


So a restricted ZX-6R is not legal on a A2? if so then obviously i wont ride it when i get my A2.

Really enough information is not provided on the CBT. Because when i passed mine we was told nothing about power restrictions on bikes. The basics was just get a 125! If i hadn't of known better to research on here then i probably would have gone out and bought a full power RS125 without even knowing it would be illegal lol.

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Your the chap that thought that a Supra Turbo with the limiter disabled and the wick turned up n the blower, was a Cheap, Reliable, Daily drver, till you lost your licence, aren't you?

Aprillia RS125... go for it...... by your standards, its a real race bike for the road, for pocket money prices...

And as the lesson of the not-so super Supra, you wont be told, you will only learn the hard way... so go learn....

Just checl uot how many parts are in the exploded schematcs of the engine, and how many of them are marked up as 'Service replacement' with a Km replacement interval along side them.

You wont take the hint, ad will be sure you wont need them, or you can get patern replacements or hop up bits more cheaply.... self delusion is well ingrained, I think..... but you wont be able to say we didn't warn you.


It wasn't a supra it was a 300ZX but yeah thats me Smile

Can you not read? i already said that i gone with a YZF R125 thanks to the advice from the members here on how unreliable the Aprilia RS125 would be as a daily commuter.
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PostPosted: 07:26 - 18 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Untitled1995 wrote:
Sure guys while i don't feel i have to answer to any of you here i will still upload some proof [of 150mph ban] just to prove you wrong.

Will you indeed?
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