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Posted: 22:35 - 26 Mar 2017 Post subject: |
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VickRides wrote: | My plan is to get a Kawasaki z300 brand new once I pass my A licence and to ride it for at least 3 years. |
Your current plan.
I'm not saying you will change your mind but I'm not saying you won't. Whenever I read such threads it always makes me want to point out that, in my view, it's best to get the license out the way before you start looking for a bike because the mind and opinions can change quite a but during this time.
The fact you, think, you know how long you'll own it is interesting. Are you planning on buying via finance?
VickRides wrote: | It rains so much in the UK, not to mention winters are cold and moist, is it viable to not have a garage and just keep the bike covered ? |
The entire year is cold and moist. A friend said something like "we have two seasons here, winter and that other bit." I concur with zed friend.
Keep the bike coated with ACF-50 and that all keep the crap at bay from attacking your bikes materials directly and then chuck a cover over it post ride once it's cooled down, jobs a gooden.
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Your question regarding installing a ground anchor probably needs more clarification and detail regarding if it's private or council and if it's yours or there's multiple and it's a free for all. I sense there's legality I cannot answer. Needs moar detail.
On the whole your worrying about a problem before you have one. ____________________ The do it all, T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶,̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶i̶g̶ ̶l̶u̶m̶p̶,̶ ̶C̶h̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶N̶o̶o̶d̶l̶e̶ |
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Posted: 23:38 - 26 Mar 2017 Post subject: |
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Not a bad choice of first bike, but I'd consider whether buying new's really a good idea. My bike lives outside under a cover, and I've definitely noticed the condition deteriorating over the last few years. I wouldn't deliberately have a shitter for this reason, but at the same time I wouldn't have a top-end bike and keep it outside. However a pal has an expensive R1 and parks it on street |
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Posted: 23:42 - 26 Mar 2017 Post subject: Re: Soon to be rider - Is a garage mandatory ? |
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You'll be doing your training and tests on a 600cc+ bike.
Stepping back down to a 300cc, I don't see it happening. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Posted: 00:01 - 27 Mar 2017 Post subject: |
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Wow guys thank you so much for the super quick and friendly replies.
I`m very grateful for your time.
To give more detail about anchor, I rent here in the UK, I will be staying at my current place for 6-8 months after which I will move to another place probably - still the same city just a bigger place. I don`t have a garage here , neither more likely will the next place have one, so with this in mind I was hoping there is a way to get an anchor placed on the ground so I can chain the bike to it. This current place has a parking lot assigned for each apartment, but no anchor.
I would be highly skeptical of leaving it untied like that on the street over night. I`ve searched for garages but they are like 150 quid a month plus so meh, seems a bit expensive for a small bike like that.
As for the other question, I say I plan to keep the Z300 for three years, not because of financing - I sort of have the money to get it - I just want to give myself enough time to learn and develop reflexes on a more forgiving bike. This 300cc naked seems like an ideal choice - I want to ride around West Sussex, go Brighton and around that area and chill and explore have cofee (mostly weekends as I work quite late hours weekly, and I live 2 minutes walking from work), afterwards I might get a bigger adventure bike or something but for now, I want to be tame and chill. Realistically I don`t want to give me the opportunity to be on a 600cc bike straight of the bat ) If I ever get sick of 300cc, I can always sell and get a bigger one. I genuinely am not in for the racing/speed/power aspect of it, I wanna ride and chill and enjoy myself lol.
ps. I want it new as I just came to the UK, I don`t even own a screw driver here, I don`t want to get a 2nd hand and have issues with it. I want to get new and just spend the little free time I have riding as opposed to figuring out as a new rider, why the 2nd hand bike is fucking up. Oh and I will get the licence first, then I will actually get the bike, not the other way around
Further advice is super welcome |
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Posted: 00:15 - 27 Mar 2017 Post subject: |
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The only thing to go wrong on my bike in 3 years has been the horn You can buy reliable 2nd hand bikes, low miles, low amount of owners and make sure they've been looked after. |
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Posted: 00:23 - 27 Mar 2017 Post subject: |
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My bike lives outside with no cover on it. It gets ACF50 and a proper wash twice a year. Still seems ok.
A garage is really nice to have, but it's not an absolute must. Worst case, put the bike in your hallway or living room ____________________ Honda CBF125 ➝ NC700X
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Posted: 00:29 - 27 Mar 2017 Post subject: |
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VickRides wrote: | Further advice is super welcome |
I've got some, don't walk into a dealership they'll see you coming.
VickRides wrote: | I would be highly skeptical of leaving it untied like that on the street over night. I`ve searched for garages but they are like 150 quid a month plus so meh, seems a bit expensive for a small bike like that. |
So what one is it?
(a) leave a three thousound pound asset unchained to any object in a parking space or (b) put that three thousound pound asset into a garage whereby at the very least, as an advantage vs option a, it's out of sight and possibly also option b might therefore make fitting a ground anchor easier, I'd imagine.
Spend £150 pcm or risk loosing it? Can you wake up one morning with three thousound down the pan and honestly say that saving was worth it?
Well, I'll stop myself because at this very moment in time this is all imaginary and you don't own a bike of any value I'm simply pointing out the mindset you should have as opposed to the one you write down.
VickRides wrote: | Realistically I don`t want to give me the opportunity to be on a 600cc bike straight of the bat |
Engine CC is a willy waggling topic, it's about the HP of the bike (shoot me down).
As above you'll be training on a 600cc or thereabouts anyway so by the time you get to buying a bike you'll be well used to it hence why I said your opinion between now and then will change. You're not going to get a license without getting on one and you won't be put on one before your ready.
VickRides wrote: | ps. I want it new as I just came to the UK, I don`t even own a screw driver here, I don`t want to get a 2nd hand and have issues with it. I want to get new and just spend the little free time I have riding as opposed to figuring out as a new rider, why the 2nd hand bike is fucking up. Oh and I will get the licence first, then I will actually get the bike, not the other way around |
Another area that could be discussed in its own thread closer to the time of you buying a bike but my small and brief input would be that buying new isn't always better. Keeping up main dealer servicing to validate the warrenty will cost a hefty penny, so I read. A dealer won't have your interest at heart and will give you all the sales talk and "yeah, that all be fine mate" you need to hand the cash over, you're trapped henceforth.
Buying used is probably the way to go because if you really do have three grand then you could get a bike and the tools, when you need em, to fix any issues that occur and have many monies left over.
The full license will teach you the basic pre-ride checks anyway so that's a start to not buying a lemon. The rest can be discussed latter in depth when the time comes. ____________________ The do it all, T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶,̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶i̶g̶ ̶l̶u̶m̶p̶,̶ ̶C̶h̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶N̶o̶o̶d̶l̶e̶ |
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Posted: 08:43 - 27 Mar 2017 Post subject: |
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Whatever it is you do, spend a lot on security. I agree with the above about the 300cc - regardless of how much you just want to cruise, the 300 may seem a little uninspiring after being on a 600. Anyway...
I think a garage is preferable, but it doesn't make your bike safe. Plenty of stories of garage doors getting kicked in, or people getting mugged for their keys after they've come home to park the bike for the night. I wouldn't spend the money on renting one for a 3 grand bike. After a year you've paid out £1800 or so which is nearly as much as the bike is going to be worth after depreciation.
I park my (1.5 year old) bike out front, and I live in a bad area for motorbike crime. I had my old scooter stolen, I had it vandalised countless times - seat ripped off, mirrors keyed, steering lock broken etc etc. My new bike (Honda CBR650) whilst two weeks old had the right indicator snapped off. Its subsequently been messed with more than a few times, two bike covers stolen / thrown somewhere, one bike cover slashed with a knife, mirrors bent, bike pushed over into a car. The bike is parked outside my flat which is on a very nice middle class street in London. The scum travel in form the local estates - all the bikes get a going over regularly just out of spite I think more than anything - they can't steal it so they trash it. This is the mentality of these cretins.
I budget for a few hundred pounds a year to repair things - mirrors, indicators etc. Still cheaper than a garage unless they set it on fire or something really stupid. Security wise I have an Almax which I anchor to a lamppost - no motorbike hooks on my road. I also have a factory immobiliser and a satellite tracker. I put a front disc lock on most nights too. I then wrap it all up with an oxford bike cover which I think has actually been the best investment from an anti theft point of view for some reason.
Don't know where you are based, but owning a motorbike (especially a shiny new one) in London is a testing experience to say the least. The petty crime is an irritant but other than buying a total wreck that nobody is interested in this isn't going to stop. |
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Posted: 20:06 - 27 Mar 2017 Post subject: |
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Wow guys thanks so much for all the input and advice - and for probably answering the same questions posted by every other newbie out there )
Ok so from all of this I gather the following.
A. To not focus on the what bike yet, fist get my A licence and be done with it then focus on what follows - if 300 or bigger, etc
B. Consider 2nd hand as I might get a decent one (still doubt i`d have the balls but sure I will look around the webs for prices on almost new but 2nd hand bikes.
C. I will look a bit more into garages but at least it`s not the end of the world if it`s under a good oxford cover and I use anty corrosion products.
Finally regarding CBT and then FULL A driven practical exam in traffic - I`ve never driven in traffic before - ever - and to make matters worse in my country traffic is on the opposite side.
How can I best prepare for going out in traffic for the first time when I`ll be at my CBT for example, apart from reading the highway code and the sign book, I don`t think there`s much I can do right ?
Will they take me on quiet roads at the beginning and then taper me into traffic ?
Thank you for the input and help
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Have a read of this:
https://www.gov.uk/browse/driving/highway-code-road-safety
Many people[who?] find it useful to ride a pedal-cycle for a while to get used to the sort of observations - and lack of observability - that you'll experience as a biker. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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If the property has some concrete and the landlord is OK with it, you could buy something like this:
https://www.costco.co.uk/view/p/keter-fusion-7ft-6-x-4ft-23-x-12m-shed-204105
You can take it apart and move it to a new place or sell it on in the future.
Still chain the bike up though ____________________ Old fart
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 38 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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