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Posted: 21:04 - 17 May 2017 Post subject: Best bike tracker on the market, quality and value |
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I may have just bought a bike that NEEDS a tracker fitted....
What is the best tracker on the market?
Looked at the tracKING and the biketrac tracker.
TracKING is cheaper and both seem equal otherwise?
https://biketrac.co.uk/#pricing
https://trakking.net/home/buy
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https://www.tracker.co.uk/for-your-vehicle/motorcycle-tracking/
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Please recommend me a good value, good quality tracker for my bike ____________________ Had: '06 CBR125R + '01 GSF600 + '07 SPRINT ST 1050 + '80 CB250 RSA + '93 Ducati 900SS
Have: '13 GSXR-1000 + '01 CB500S
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What's the plan if it gets stolen? Report to police? Or going in blazing? ____________________ Observation is the greatest source of wisdom. |
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Posted: 22:40 - 17 May 2017 Post subject: |
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These guys seem to have a pretty interesting youtube channel, showing them recovering various vehicles that have been stolen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVwcNh6_pNo
Seems they went to france to get that range rover back. I had a look at the website and it's expensive, but I guess for a high value vehicle it might be worth it, as they seem to actually do something about it.
They're also the company that kept finding this guy's R6:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAr56x8lsuI
There's probably cheaper DIY options though. |
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Posted: 23:00 - 17 May 2017 Post subject: |
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Have a nano 102 or whatever they are called cheap tracker with a sim card for my Ducati and it's really good.
But I wanted something a bit more legit for this bike ____________________ Had: '06 CBR125R + '01 GSF600 + '07 SPRINT ST 1050 + '80 CB250 RSA + '93 Ducati 900SS
Have: '13 GSXR-1000 + '01 CB500S
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Biketrac will drain a small bike's battery instantly- if you nudge it in the slightest with ignition off without realising it will activate and stay on until you turn ignition on and then ignition off again. If you didn't realise you touched it you'll go to sleep and you'll wake up with a flat battery- I think even for a big bike.
Me personally having Trak King and a small bike- doesn't use much current at all- it works well.
Bike Trac small company with only three people and they make trackers individually on demand not in mass produce.
Trak King opposite- it's a huge company with years in the industry
Rarely is the RF they brag about ever required and even if signal disappears in a van - it'll eventually come out again obviously- so they can see last location- if still no signal for long time or signal disappears again for good after it comes out of van it's obviously in a garage or some compound- the last location can be seen.
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The unit is slightly smaller than Trak King but the gps unit must see the sky unlike the Trak King so limits the places you can hide it on a .
More expensive than Trak King. The return rate is not that different. 93% of BikeTrac to 89% of Trak King. I don't believe it is fair to compare these two statistics because Trak King is much more popular due to price and naturally percentage is from much more stolen vehicles with Trak King- much larger data sample from Trak King. If Bike Trac had bigger sample of stolen bikes then their average would probably be less than 93%.
The good thing there was a lot of choice to put it- when the pro put it in I was a bit apprehensive where he'd put it because I'd heard of them being found by some hypothetical cunt and ripped out. After he
put it in- I was like "where is it then?"- it was nicely tucked but staring me in the face- I'd taken the rider and pillion seat loads of times but still failed to spot it. (won't say where )
You must find someone who specialises in installing trackers not some garage licensed to do it. It took the specialist 2 hours to do it. The garage quoted me same £50 fee for installation as specialist and said about half an hour's work. We both laughed because it was obvious where the garage guy was trained to put it-right bang in the middle under the seat- why would they go out of their way as long you pay them the cash?
Also if something's up the specialist will know exactly what's wrong- and he feels kind of obliged to come back and look at it cos he fitted it
My personal experience with Trak King now-
it takes six seconds of movement with the ignition off to activate and you get an immediate text message "Vehicle insert Reg Plate activity detected within geofence " (not a small accidental nudge and no notification when it activates like with BikeTrac )
When the vehicle moves out of the 300m geofence with ignition off you get a call from the 24 hr team. I think this is stupid. Why 300m? Too huge man. Why not something like 50m or less? seems like a totally arbitrary figure and they'd be long gone by 300m
If it's going to be steering lock broken and hotwired so the tracker is fooled into thinking the bike has been turned on with owners key it's OK cos the breaking and hotwiring will certainly take more 6 secs of continuous movement with ignition off so you'll be notified by text. You will however not get a phone call from the team after the bike leaves 300m geofence because they'll figure nothing suspicious because the ignition will be on.
To overcome this there is a manual function called KeyGuard Alarm where (you must pay extra £30 sorry) where every night when you're sleeping (or unattended for a long time or can't access phone) you change the alert setting for movement EVEN when the ignition is on so for keyed theft or hotwiring once it leaves 300m geofence you get text AND call from the team.
If you leave ignition without bike running in gear the tracker will kill the battery (even in neutral for small bikes with engine running the battery will die)
For the text alerts you get 5 free texts initially then 100 texts for £15- you'll waste a few texts at first when you forget oops you're wheeling the bike with ignition off- it thinks you're a thief eventually you get used to it and no more wastes- you lock it up quickly and efficiently and manoeuvre it with ignition on so not much is taken from battery.
-Overall I don't like 300m
-I wish there was an app to quickly change settings instead of logging in to mobile site which is boring and slow
- I'm trying to figure out a way to get some alarm when you get a text message from a certain number because a text message won't wake you up instantly
-no fancy features like Biketrac e.g when bike tilts over a certain angle it recognises you might have fallen off. (no big deal tbh- I don't plan to fall off much )
-no RF- though the stats don't seem to prove it matters very much.
Don't know a huge deal about BikeTrac only what I've heard of it so can't give you details like Trak King- maybe someone here who owns one can post a detailed description about it? ____________________ Kymco Super 8 (125) Honda CBR 125
A2 2017
Teflon Mike: "A man can dream... but most of them are probably best not voiced.... Folk will likely think you are just mad, sad or simply a pervert."
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Posted: 07:32 - 18 May 2017 Post subject: |
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Closest fitter was a place called Hartgate Motorcycles
https://biketrac.co.uk/dealer-finder/ ____________________ Observation is the greatest source of wisdom. |
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Biketrac does not drain any bikes battery, it has enough juice to keep itself going for 30 days and tops itself up as and when it needs to. It was part of RoadAngel but has now expanded and forged ahead as a seperate independent company (with more than three employees). It does not "stay activated" if you accidentally nudge your bike, if it has been activated you get a text(s) and phonecall. It is always on (unless you disable tracking via their website) so cannot be accidentally activated, there is nothing to activate.
I had a text and a call from them yesterday after loading my bike in a van to go get its fork seals done, the van hadnt even left my road before they called me up. I could still see it as I spoke to them.
Tracking from BikeTrac works inside brick buildings, buildings with metal roofs and vans plus they were the company that tracked and recovered a bike stolen from London that ended up in Eastern Europe. The unit does not need to "see the sky" and can be hidden neatly away anywhere on the bike.
The service is very expensive but I am happy to pay £99 for one year/£179 every two years to potentially get my bike recovered and returned in under an hour. ____________________ Theory test - 19/8/09, CBT - 11/10/09, MOD 1 - 16/8/10, MOD 2 - 27/10/10
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Posted: 08:28 - 18 May 2017 Post subject: |
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pretty certain it's not "always on". I don't have it but that much I know. It does take a lot of juice when it is on so is bad for small bikes is what I know- it seems the large current draw has no problems for bigger machines then based on everyone's experience.
As for the sky bit you're also wrong- unless you thought I meant it literally must be exposed to the sky which is silly . Exposed to the sky meant there can be no piece of metal blocking the actual gps unit top surface from above. Plastic or rubber is fine though. If you put in the Biketrac like that then the only hope is it's RF function cos the gps won't work. This limits where you can put the unit on the bike- this is less than Trak King which does not suffer the same issue. Didn't say there was nowhere to put it. I'm not just rambling garbage here ____________________ Kymco Super 8 (125) Honda CBR 125
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Teflon Mike: "A man can dream... but most of them are probably best not voiced.... Folk will likely think you are just mad, sad or simply a pervert."
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Yeah - thats the one.
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wrong. shame waffle and vice don't know the technicalities of their own purchase ____________________ Kymco Super 8 (125) Honda CBR 125
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Teflon Mike: "A man can dream... but most of them are probably best not voiced.... Folk will likely think you are just mad, sad or simply a pervert."
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Are you telling people who do have a Bike Trac fitted what it does and doesn't do based on your experience of not having one?
Are you a ginger? Because you're certainly acting like Tef's long lost son.
I'd go with Bike Trac because it's the only one I've seen where multiple owners have reported successful recoveries via police assistance.
Trak King, well, there's that one promotional video of that one guy that one time. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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not wrong ____________________ Observation is the greatest source of wisdom. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 22 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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