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ScaredyCat
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Getting over mileage Reply with quote

I'm looking at picking up a second bike but since this particular bike isn't for sale new any more in the UK I, obviously, have to look at 2nd / 3rd user. There are a few available, best mileages / ages range from 2012 through to 2.5k miles to 2003 / 50k miles. Prices seem to be fairly static and typical.

I know everyone says condition over mileage but I'm really having difficulty getting over high mileage, which is a little ironic since most of these bikes have done fewer than my NC, which I intend to keep.

Convince me that it's fine and I'm worrying about nothing. I've already missed out on what looked, from afar, like a good one because I was poncing around about the mileage.
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

some bikes have a better reputation for mile munching than others

I got my 1999 reg ZZR600 4 years ago with 25k on it, it's now just shy of 60k and while I've had temp sensor for the fan fail and two reg/recs (replacement was second hand) everything else on it has been consumables and it's been more reliable than the wife's car bought 1 year old with full warranty!

what bike is it?
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonko The Sane wrote:
what bike is it?


CB1300
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
Wonko The Sane wrote:
what bike is it?


CB1300


That would go to the moon and back.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carry a spare regulator just incase... however its a solid Honda lump.

I'd buy one now at 50k and not worry.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup just do your homework on how its been treated/serviced up to that 50k and then bag one!
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been a few cases of gearbox issues (jumping out of gear) but not that many. Recommended check is to hammer the bike in 4th gear and see if it holds the gear. There is a dedicated forum and it's worth looking at. mainly happy punters.

Otherwise, marvelous bikes and cheap too Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The old Fazer thous are the same. No real concerns over mileage, as long as it's been looked after to a reasonable level. I know of one that has done over 200k miles. Thinking Mind you, might be a bit of a Trigger's broom, the one I'm thinking of Laughing Big Jap IL4s are about the strongest things you can get.

However, I've always looked for the lowest mileage I could afford, never bought with more than 17k on the clock. I would've thought that there would be enough CB13s around that you'd find something with a relatively low mileage at a good price, with a little patience. Might as well if you can.

Paddy. wrote:
Carry a spare regulator just incase


Have Honda still not got past this?!
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Re: Getting over mileage Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
I've already missed out on what looked, from afar, like a good one because I was poncing around about the mileage.

Unless you looked at it close up then you don't know if you missed a deal or dodged a bullet.
Just go look at the bikes and see what they're like.
Some mid-high milers will be shagged out whilst some will have had enthusiastic owners that kept the bike in better condition than a disinterested low miler, and be a lot cheaper because too many people won't even look at them...
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
ScaredyCat wrote:
CB1300

That would go to the moon and back.

More than once.
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big, unstressed engine, mature owners who've probably pampered it, no worries. Just bear in mind that even the best maintenance doesn't magically reduce wear, so higher mileage = lower price. Don't fall for any "appreciating classic" lines. Wink
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Don't fall for any "appreciating classic" lines. Wink


Don't think I've heard that one applied to the CB13 yet. No nonsense owners on the whole?
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a spark plug out if you can and check the condition of it.

If it's oily then suspect valve guides or worn rings/cylinder. Make sure you start the bike from cold and check for any smoke, give it a good run as well if possible. Get the owner to leave it running whilst checking for any oil leaks and make sure thermostat/fan kicks in etc.

Assuming that's ok then it'/s all normal consumable stuff. Head bearings I'd imagine arent abused much on CB1300's, Try and have a poke around all the suspension bearings/bushes. If theyre covered in grime/dirt then expect to need replacing them.

What condition are fork stanchions in, if theyre pitted can cost a bit, are seals all ok etc.?

Look at pads and disc, try and pop on a stand and give a spin if possible, bit hard to see but if it's bad will be able to see if need truing. Look for grooves in discs and take a vernier (or micrometer if youre fussy) and measure for thickness. Take a bright torch and look through to pads, are they ok?

Are tyres and chain ok?

If all are then it's probably been looked after and likely to be fine to buy.

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PostPosted: 20:10 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irezumi aka Reuben wrote:
Take a spark plug out if you can and check the condition of it.

If it's oily then suspect valve guides or worn rings/cylinder. Make sure you start the bike from cold and check for any smoke, give it a good run as well if possible. Get the owner to leave it running whilst checking for any oil leaks and make sure thermostat/fan kicks in etc.

Assuming that's ok then it'/s all normal consumable stuff. Head bearings I'd imagine arent abused much on CB1300's, Try and have a poke around all the suspension bearings/bushes. If theyre covered in grime/dirt then expect to need replacing them.

What condition are fork stanchions in, if theyre pitted can cost a bit, are seals all ok etc.?

Look at pads and disc, try and pop on a stand and give a spin if possible, bit hard to see but if it's bad will be able to see if need truing. Look for grooves in discs and take a vernier (or micrometer if youre fussy) and measure for thickness. Take a bright torch and look through to pads, are they ok?

Are tyres and chain ok?

If all are then it's probably been looked after and likely to be fine to buy.

P.S. Yes I'm a bastard at buying bikes, never sell to me!


Is any of this specific to the CB1300?
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Is any of this specific to the CB1300?

The imaginary bit is.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edit; Realise my mistake that Chickenstrip isnt the OP.

Not sure how being 'banterish' about someones advice on an internet forum is helpful. If you disagree with it more than happy to have it corrected however not sure your replies are any help as to what to look for in a high mileage bike.

Good luck with the bike hunt OP.
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

The imaginary bit is.


Irezumi aka Reuben wrote:
I'd imagine


Borg, where can I get one of those Palantirs that you so obviously have? Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irezumi aka Reuben wrote:
I sense that you're both unimpressed by my advice. Will refrain from offering any in future. Thumbs Up


Don't be daft, just bit of banter (at your expense Razz ).
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:24 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
CB1300

arry wrote:
That would go to the moon and back.

Alpineandy wrote:
More than once.

Err, given how may de-commissioned ICBM's it would take to get it off the floor to start with.... and the size of crater it would leave after re-entry.... I'd not want to see it happen more than once!
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a 929 blade on 60k, bought a set of clocks for it that just came off one that got written off with 85k on it.

Depends how things are looked after.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Big, unstressed engine, mature owners who've probably pampered it, no worries.

I do wonder how long engine life applies to the rest of the bike. I'd still rather go for a lower mileage example.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 05 Jun 2017    Post subject: Re: Getting over mileage Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
Convince me that it's fine and I'm worrying about nothing. I've already missed out on what looked, from afar, like a good one because I was poncing around about the mileage.


My 2003 blade is currently on 45k miles and i've only ever had to replace the usual consumables. (oil, brake pads, tyres, etc..)

I've spent money on it over the years on things like changing the brake lines for braided ones, getting MCT to redo the suspension internals, etc.. but that was more just something I wanted to do rather than something I had to do.

As long as it's well looked after the mileage shouldn't worry you in the slightest. A good service history is probably more important in those cases.
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PostPosted: 07:09 - 06 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:

I do wonder how long engine life applies to the rest of the bike. I'd still rather go for a lower mileage example.


At 50k miles, if it hasn't been done, I'd possibly look at replacing wheel bearings and swing arm bushes, but they're not major expenses so I wouldn't necessarily let that put me off if everything else is good at a good price. Suspension might be shagged if it's still on standard, so worth thinking about this; bit more expensive. I don't know if Honda put decent quality stuff on in the first place though.

You missed one that looked good? - I did when I was looking for a Fazer, but even though they stopped making them in 2005, it wasn't long before another really nice example came up - truly immaculate too. In fact, someone on the Fazer forum beat me to the one I was looking at, which had only done about 5k miles, but turned out the one I got was in better nick at 15k (don't ask Confused ). CB13s don't seem to be uncommon, so worth waiting for the right one I would think.
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 06 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Youre worrying about nothing. The whole mileage debate is maintained by people who know nothing about vehicles or maintenance and want a number against which to value a vehicle.
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