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PostPosted: 17:36 - 12 Jun 2017    Post subject: Tracer 900 Vs Tiger 800 XRx Reply with quote

I am sorry for another Wot Byke M8 thread.

As you will all know, I have found myself in a situation where my bike is currently not very well.

I find myself now looking for a new bike. I did really love the tracer, and did loads of research before to decide I wanted one, but the one bike that was in the back of my mind was the Tiger 800 XRx.

So while I continue to do my own research, what are peoples thoughts?
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 12 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

This Tiger looks good!

However, on a more serious note, this one is a bit more expensive but you get all those extra goodies.

Very goodies!
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 12 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget the Crossrunner VFR's - might be worth a look at one if you haven't before.
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 12 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried both and found the Tracer more fun. The triumph was not bad just a bit bland.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 12 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you have the Tracer long enough to find there was anything you didn't like about it?
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 12 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Did you have the Tracer long enough to find there was anything you didn't like about it?


Had it for a little over a month and cant say i found anything i didn't like about it, apart from the recall that was needed and especially once i had fixed the brake.

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PostPosted: 20:56 - 12 Jun 2017    Post subject: Re: Tracer 900 Vs Tiger 800 XRx Reply with quote

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I did really love the tracer, and did loads of research before to decide I wanted one, but now I need a GSXR


Fixed that for you.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 12 Jun 2017    Post subject: Re: Tracer 900 Vs Tiger 800 XRx Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
Tracer1234 wrote:
I did really love the tracer, and did loads of research before to decide I wanted one, but now I need a GSXR


Fixed that for you.


You got a GSXR by any chance? Wink
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 12 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracer1234 wrote:
chickenstrip wrote:
Did you have the Tracer long enough to find there was anything you didn't like about it?


Had it for a little over a month and cant say i found anything i didn't like about it, apart from the recall that was needed and especially once i had fixed the brake.

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Considering you are contemplating touring, does it fit the bill? Comfortable enough? I've read the stock suspension is pants, but then I don't know if the Triumph would be any better, but if you have a hankering...?

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PostPosted: 21:13 - 12 Jun 2017    Post subject: Re: Tracer 900 Vs Tiger 800 XRx Reply with quote

Tracer1234 wrote:
I am sorry for another Wot Byke M8 thread.

So while I continue to do my own research, what are peoples thoughts?


Curve ball - 990 SMT and get a Thai hooker to rub cream into your swollen half-sack with the change.

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PostPosted: 21:36 - 12 Jun 2017    Post subject: Re: Tracer 900 Vs Tiger 800 XRx Reply with quote

Tracer1234 wrote:
You got a GSXR by any chance? Wink


Yeah got a 1000 K1 and I want to buy 4 more (750 SRAD, 1100K, 1000 K6, 1000 L7). Unfortunately I'd buy all those at the expense of the wife and she is kind of useful to have around.

Anyways stop changing the topic go buy a GSXR. Had you owned a GSXR at the point of this crash you would have stared down the old man and in a feat of GSXR infested hetero machismo you would have pulled a wheelie, ridden over his car, done a stoppie on the other side, as the bike dropped down, kicked out the stand, jumped off and kung-fu'd the old cunt across 3 counties.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 12 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being a Triumph aficionado, I would say the Tiger. But I am biased Cool

Seriously though, both are good bikes, it's just the Triumph is gooder. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 12 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:

Seriously though, both are good bikes, it's just the Triumph is gooder. Thumbs Up


Earn a "Thumbs Up helpful", and say in what way?
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 12 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the Triumph tiger had brakes, sort of, twin piston sliding calipers will not feel like the 4 piston radial calipers of the tracer.

The bigger front wheel felt different too, not bad but takes a moment to get used to, neither bike is a slouch, a well ridden tiger 800 can run with a street triple 675 and be fun but the Tracer 900 can pop power wheelies and has a normal 17" front wheel.


You need to ride both, when I did I would have bought a Tracer there and then if they had a Lava Red in stock, but they didn't so I made a mistake and test rode a Multistrada, bought it, realized it was an unreliable POS, traded it in against the MT-10 which owns everything this side of a superduke 1290 Cool On the road anyway, comfort is worth a lot on a longer ride.

If you can reach just beyond £9k then there are some used MT-10's appearing, Yamaha's price rises are keeping the used prices up.
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PostPosted: 02:25 - 13 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK Mr, chickenstrip, my two cents worth

I like the Tiger 800, it's a lovely bike but I don't think it's actually easy to compare with the Tracer. The 800 is a full blown adventure bike with an engine in a completely different state of tune from the Tracer. You are talking 70kw compared with 85kw and a much more relaxing ride.

Yamaha call the tracer a Sports Tourer, not an adventure bike because it hasn't any off road capability except maybe a rally field.

So it really depends on what you want, road bike or adventure bike.

The bike in Triumphs stable that is comparable to the Tracer is the Tiger sport, which although still keeping the Tiger name is pure road bike. It has 17" wheels, Radial brakes, etc. 2 grand more though.

But, back to the original question, which is better? That's a purely personal choice which in reality is based on which you like.

To me the Tiger because it's prettier and an adventure bike which I prefer. And it's a Triumph. If you are one of these who worry about resale, it will keep it's value more.

But I would buy neither because anything under 1000cc is for pussies Cool
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PostPosted: 07:11 - 13 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

If pillion is a consideration the Tiger wins there IMO. Pegs are a little high on the Tracer. I'm really keen on a Tracer as my next bike but I'm really hoping the pegs aren't a problem for the mrs as it was one of the first things she commented on when sitting on one.
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 13 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried both and have owned my Tracer for over 2 years now, still can't find a fault with it. More than enough to keep me entertained
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 13 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

AL- wrote:
I've tried both and have owned my Tracer for over 2 years now, still can't find a fault with it. More than enough to keep me entertained


Any pillion experience with it?
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 13 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

kraggem wrote:
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I've tried both and have owned my Tracer for over 2 years now, still can't find a fault with it. More than enough to keep me entertained


Any pillion experience with it?


With the Tracer yes. 90% of my riding is done with my wife pillion. Had no complaints from her in terms of comfort
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 13 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they ever start complaining, take them for a ride on a sports bike.

On some of our longer group ride outs the women that go on the back of sports bikes are almost fighting each other to come on my bike on the way home.

And it's not because I'm so wonderfully handsome I assure you Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 13 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm wanting to do some Euro trips two up so it's important that she's comfortable hence if it's a no go for her then I'll have to compromise. With any luck my CX500 will make a nice two up machine when it's on the road in a month or two but I have no idea what to expect from it's handling or reliability with it being so old.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 13 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

AL- wrote:
With the Tracer yes. 90% of my riding is done with my wife pillion. Had no complaints from her in terms of comfort

On my MT09 Spacker however... Nothing to hold onto except me, small seat, high rear footpegs.
I wouldn't get on the back of one. Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 13 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
AL- wrote:
With the Tracer yes. 90% of my riding is done with my wife pillion. Had no complaints from her in terms of comfort

On my MT09 Spacker however... Nothing to hold onto except me, small seat, high rear footpegs.
I wouldn't get on the back of one. Laughing


What mt09 do you have?

In other news. Today i did try this:

https://s20.postimg.org/dofip7gst/IMG_20170613_143323.jpg

Thank you for all of your input so far, I am definitely swaying one way, then the other, then back again.

So over all, the build quality felt good and I liked the look of it. I certainly preferred the foot position, however the handle position didn't feel as nice.

The front wheel is much thinner as well as being larger in diameter, so that took a bit to get used to.

One thing that stood out was how incredibly smooth the throttle was. No, it wasn't quite as response, but boy was it smooth. It handled well, in the amount I rode it. Seat was very comfy, and suspension felt good.

Brakes, certainly were not as good, but they did the job.

Cruise control was cool and I imagine I will use a little, although how much in the real world I am not sure.

Instrument cluster was not as nice, but that's just being picky.

I love the lights on the tracer, but like the shape of the lights on the triumph.

Decisions decisions. The triumph feels like its they way I am leaning, but then there is a factor of the extra moneys that need to be found.

Not a bad problem to have to think about, but one that, knowing me, will stress me out lol Rolling Eyes

There is a chance I will get a tiger 800 as a hire bike while the insurance spend time fucking me around, so that will be a good way to spend some more time on the bike.

We shall see.
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 13 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Test ride a 990 SMT. Seriously. It's like a Tiger on mental roids. Smooth? No hell no. Batshit? Plenty. But it'll do the same job when you want to knuckle down - it'll just do it whilst simultaneously attempting to fucking murk you. It's fun.
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