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Posted: 17:32 - 06 Jul 2017 Post subject: Re: Weight. |
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I ride a heavy dual-suspension mountain bike. Don't really understand the fixation on weight with bicycles.
[Helpful mode]For that sort of budget I'd go for a Boardman, good (light ) frames and so-so off the shelf components. You'll probably have to go for nearly new*, but they do often have Boardmans on sale in Halfords.
On the subject of Halfords check the bike over carefully, I got a 2016 Boardman which had been assembled without any lube It wasn't pretty.
*lots on eBay which have been ridden once |
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If it won't roll downhill then there's probably something not quite right.
Can you get the Cycle to Work Scheme from your employer?
I wouldn't pay much attention to the weight of bikes but equally cheap bikes that are fully suspension will have shitty suspension and weigh a ton so I wouldn't get one of those.
Rigid hybrid bikes that don't cost thousands are all going to all weigh about the same anyway.
I've got a shiny expensive bike which I don't know how much it weighs. After doing a bit of Googling, it's 13.5kg. |
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[quote="M.C" but I like having my testicles intact [/quote]
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i'd give this a look if you wanting a decent entry level road bike https://www.decathlon.co.uk/triban-500-se-road-bike-id_8306187.html
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That does look good but it's probably for the more serious cyclist, maybe one for the future when the old fitness levels increase and there's a bit less of me. |
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As others have said, weight doesn't make that much difference. My two "good" road bikes are a sub-7kg pro-level carbon and a 15kg steel fast tourer equipped with dynamo hub powered lighting, full mudguards, traditional cotton duck saddlebag, etc. Guess which one I rode on a personal best 10 mile club time trial?
However, things like slick tyres pumped up properly will make the bike roll a lot easier than half flat knobblies. I know that my road bikes will accelerate themselves down a slight hill that I have to pedal my mountain bike down.
Also, don't underestimate the difference that a reasonable quality bike makes to your enjoyment. A cheap bike may tick all the boxes (full suspension, 18+ gears, disk brakes etc), but none of them will work properly and the experience will be pretty miserable.
A more basic-looking bike but equipped with reasonable quality gears (Shimano Claris/2400 or better) will give you much more enjoyment as they will just work, rather than be clunky, horrible and never able to be adjusted properly. A bike that is nice to ride will get much more use than a "bargain" that isn't - the "bike shaped objects" sold by toy stores/supermarkets or the bottom end Halfords machines are not worth the money they ask for them.
I'd budget a minimum £300 for something new that is worth riding. For less money I'd be looking for a good second hand machine (think of it like buying a YBR that is a few years old rather than an off-brand Chinese 125 new for less money). |
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My do it all hack bicycle is an old Trek mountain bike with a rigid frame.
Cost me £70 second hand and I probably spent £100 on it and used various parts I had from previous bikes to do it up. New touring tyres (with puncture resistance) that take 70psi, new saddle, rear rack, suspension seat post, mud guards, hand grips, cables all round, chainset, and a bloody good clean and service of what was left.
It's not a very pretty bike, but is suited to riding about town and longer gentle rides. Previously I've done a 4 day camping tour with it, supermarket shopping trips, commuted to work, and ferry my sprog on the back in one of those child seats.
A hybrid or road bike with 700c wheels and 120psi in the tyres will feel faster and easier to pedal at speed. May also feel more twitchy and have a harsher ride. |
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I'm riding 11 miles each way to work on a full on mountain bike (hard tail) and after having a dedicated ali road bike, microscopic tires at 110 psi etc the differences is really not that big between the two to be honest.
I now do about 2/3'rds on road and 1/3'rd paths through country side (rough, muddy, hilly, long grass etc). Makes for a really nice ride and the all road route is > 13 miles with a massive hill and a much busier/faster road.
I prefer the MTB hands down (accept in strong head on winds I guess).
£350 all in, 12 months 0% (why not *shrugs*). Only another 1000 miles and it will have paid for itself in fuel savings |
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If you're not going on actual offroad, there is no need for a mountain bike.
A road bike on moderately wide road tyres is perfectly capable of coping with any reasonably smooth unmetalled surface. It won't like ruts, slabs or deep mud but most other things are fine. If you're doing a loit of it, some sort of flat bars is probably preferrable to drops.
My Puch single speed has 27" x 1 3/8" schwalbe road tyres on and I regularly take it along forestry tracks and dirt footpaths and have done a few blue MTB routes on it too (eg, I did the blue route at Coed-y-Brennin on it). I've ridden it round the perimeter road of Keilder Water before today too.
Mine isn't a light bike.
Depending on how far you have to go and how many hills there are, do consider single speed. I find them way easier to pedal, minimal wasted effort.
To me though, it's geometry that's key. For commuting (averaging less than 15mph), ignore aerodynamics. Get a bike where you're sat up, hands well up without having to reach too far forwards, feet below you. Big wheels (700c), moderately wide tyres with a bit of tread on say 700x 38 or so and the right gearing. Even consider hub gears.
This is the bike I just built for my brother for commuting to work on:
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Definitely go for used on your budget and forget about full suspension.
I have road, CX and mountain bikes (plus a tandem ) and its horses for courses. The CX is versatile, but I much prefer my road bike for the road as it's light and responsive and my MTB off road. The CX is too much of a compromise. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 330 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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