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They need to go away and be replaced with very small shell scripts. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Get a job there then, failing that try a public sector job, their pensions are gold plated, apparently!
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Oh look, the Unions are destroying another industry, there's a surprise.
On the plus side, they're making a good case for driverless trains. |
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Well done the union.
You can bet if it was 5-0McPlodFace bnp72 would be telling us how great they are.
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Rogerborg wrote: | Well done in the sense that this will hasten the removal of human train drivers from passenger services? I agree.
Ste wrote: | On the plus side, they're making a good case for driverless trains. |
The thought that we're gung-ho for having driverless cars on the road while we still insist on having spam-in-a-can mashing the "ignore red light" button in the front of trains is just baffling.
Purely on safety grounds, all passenger trains and trams should have been made driverless years ago while in normal service. |
I agree, although start on 'enclosed systems', in a similar way to the docklands light railway, other obvious enclosed systems would include London Underground, Glasgow underground, large sections of the Merseyrail 3rd rail network, Tyne & Wear Metro .. etc, as they make for sensible options for driverless trains. Although, some form of on board staff should be retained, to help those with mobility issues etc.
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Stop being racist. If everyone gets paid loads, everybody will be rich and we'll all live in mansions with butlers.
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Wobbling Dog wrote: | yeah, good wages should be the preserve of the middle class. Scandalous |
Good? £75K not being enough to push a fucking button, are you being serious?
Most of the people who have to use that service, if it's ever running and the unions don't have the drivers and guards on strike, earn less than half of that, when they can actually get to work.
These people are being caught up in a union attack on a Tory government, nothing more, nothing less. There reaches a point where even people of Julio's intellect should realise that no matter what the operator offers, the unions will still carry on striking.
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Johnnythefox wrote: | This industrial action is not about more money, it's about safety and I'm sure all drivers want less pay but a safer railway. |
No it's not. The safety aspect has been ruled out. Many of those Southern drivers already quite safely drive other Southern services on different routes, which are already Driver Only Operated.
They have not just turned down a 24% pay rise to go on strike over safety.
Every time the union give a reason, the operator meets the requirement, guarantees it or shows the claims are unsubstantiated.
This has been about money, job security, safety and now money again.
It's quite simply a union doing battle with the Tories, at the expense of thousands of commuters. After 2 years of the unions completely moving the goalposts, we've got to this ridiculous situation where £75K a year to push a stop/go button, is not considered enough to call off another strike. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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fwiw, I know a train driver. He seems to have an endless list of anecdotal evidence where work has been avoided, because of spurious reasons which essentially centre on the whole industry having this endemic "I'm going to milk the system" attitude. They try to get away with zero work if at all possible, but if it is possible, they'll ream it for the maximum time back or (and) cash payment.
I don't hate the players, I hate the game. And in this case, it's the unions being unions. If you were to ask each train driver individually the question "will you take £75k in pay, while you can, because it's not long before a robot does your job", you'd get a load of 'yessirs'. Ask them all via the unions, you get shown the door. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 121 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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