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skatefreak
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: WTF Meerkats? Reply with quote

Insurance is going from £130 to > £200, only difference is + a years no claims bonus? The usual meerkats are suspect...

Anyone else noticed an insurance jump on the comparison sites? They've always worked for me up until now returning cheaper insurance each year. It seems my current insurer (mce *cringe*) is the lowest (and don't offer a renewal to barter on :-\ )...

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PostPosted: 10:20 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

remove the years NCB?

Speak to someone on the phone.

Motor vehicle insurance price rises have gone up universally this year. Partly due to the increase in IPT (Insurance premium tax), levied by the government to raise some revenue from a huge market that has largely remained untouched, unlike banking etc
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

el_oso wrote:
remove the years NCB?


Could this possibly work?

In all fairness I'm sporting 8 years so won't be devastated to drop back, might be hard to explain Thinking

el_oso wrote:
Motor vehicle insurance price rises have gone up universally this year.


This is what I was worried about though... Has anyone else noticed a sizeable rise in their insurance for no reason lately?
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Re: WTF Meerkats? Reply with quote

skatefreak wrote:
Anyone else noticed an insurance jump on the comparison sites?

Not so far, I'm still <£100 on all my bikes via www.thebikeinsurer.co.uk

How's bike crime in Cambridge at the moment?
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el_oso
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

skatefreak wrote:

This is what I was worried about though... Has anyone else noticed a sizeable rise in their insurance for no reason lately?


Not me. Mine went down. Around £200 for a 250 racebike, with a London postcode
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

skatefreak wrote:
el_oso wrote:
remove the years NCB?

Could this possibly work?
In all fairness I'm sporting 8 years so won't be devastated to drop back

I'd have thought the difference between 7 and 8 years' NCB would be pretty trivial (or even non-existent, depending on the insurer - you should be able to check this) and likely to be far outweighed by a general hike in rates across the industry. Or some other reason.
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

el_oso wrote:
Not me. Mine went down. Around £200 for a 250 racebike, with a London postcode


Outraged!
>£200 for a 18 year old R1 in a quiet -> fuck all ever happens out here bit of Cambridgeshire Shocked.

It's always been a downward trend... I was spending £80 a year when I had a 600 Rolling Eyes.

Might have to consider going back to an old hack Rolling Eyes.

Will run some variants this eve. I have my 600 track bike but it's very much a track bike, would be cheaper to get a hack than road'ify it Mad
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freddyfruitbat wrote:
I'd have thought the difference between 7 and 8 years' NCB would be pretty trivial (or even non-existent, depending on the insurer - you should be able to check this) and likely to be far outweighed by a general hike in rates across the industry. Or some other reason.


probably is. OP didn't specify what NCB he had at the time? The statement was purely to see if NCB as a dependent variable.

Insurers will look at cost of repairing when doing their underwriting. For a 'rare' 18 year old bike that is a future if not already current classic, the cost of repairs or replacement is likely to be higher due to increasing value of bikes and a decreasing pool of available replacement parts.

Could be time to get rid of this expensive bike before it costs you a fortune. I'll take it. Wink Wink
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried a few insurance quotes all with zero NCB on the Zontes we are "rebuilding", they were silly. All over £130

So, I tried for one day, 7 day, one month, or six month policies.

Finally found one, £140 for a day Rolling Eyes

3rd party only, maximum excess, declaring all affiliations, memberships, etc

no matter what I put in or left out, couldn't get under £135 which suprised me, as I've had a handful old or very old bikes over the last ten years 3rd party only, which I don't keep long - so yeah, insurance has crept up a bit.

I'm sure the fact that it is a Zontes and a 125 contributed somewhat but even so, wouldn't have expected it to be over £95!
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slight increase with MCE, everyone else seem to have skyrocketed:

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PostPosted: 14:13 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCE was £130 for me, everyone else £400+ despite many phone calls and online quotes. One quote was 1900 quid, don't know why they bothered to be honest.
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes the Insurance cnuts have blootered their Bread and Butter exponentially once again.

Then blame it on the government.

And behind the scenes they are slashing away at the benefits and cover.

Some even exclude European cover (which was a more or less freeby in days of yore).

It has never been fair but it is less fair these days. Why should 'most' people be bent-over when they have had no claims for 20 years? Why not load those who claim pay the increases? Shocked
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC they have to provide basic EU cover by default.

Anyway if people don't like these prices they can take the other options available to them. Like these guys or something.

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PostPosted: 19:10 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still well over a grand, full NCB, in my forties. What's these quotes of just a couple of hundred of which I hear....

(Clean licence too, for what it's worth....)
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just checked and my insurance is still £75 for my Bros and I quoted my VFR750 which I will eventually get fixed and they want about £150. 27 with 2 years NCB, 6 points and 2 fault accidents within 5 years.

However I have recently moved out of Southampton into a smaller town which thankfully doesn't have any where near as much of a problem with bike theft. I had two nicked within a year or so in Southampton and judging by the various facebook groups I'm in, things aren't getting any better.

It should also be noted that both bikes are worth well under a grand and I'm looking at TPFT policies.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

UnspeedySam wrote:
Just checked and my insurance is still £75 for my Bros and I quoted my VFR750 which I will eventually get fixed and they want about £150. 27 with 2 years NCB, 6 points and 2 fault accidents within 5 years.

However I have recently moved out of Southampton into a smaller town which thankfully doesn't have any where near as much of a problem with bike theft. I had two nicked within a year or so in Southampton and judging by the various facebook groups I'm in, things aren't getting any better.

It should also be noted that both bikes are worth well under a grand and I'm looking at TPFT policies.


It's you folk who should be compensating the losses the insurers are having to suffer. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

My insurance just went down, fortunately. By around 15% from £100 with 1 year NCB to £85 with 2.
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
UnspeedySam wrote:
Just checked and my insurance is still £75 for my Bros and I quoted my VFR750 which I will eventually get fixed and they want about £150. 27 with 2 years NCB, 6 points and 2 fault accidents within 5 years.

However I have recently moved out of Southampton into a smaller town which thankfully doesn't have any where near as much of a problem with bike theft. I had two nicked within a year or so in Southampton and judging by the various facebook groups I'm in, things aren't getting any better.

It should also be noted that both bikes are worth well under a grand and I'm looking at TPFT policies.


It's you folk who should be compensating the losses the insurers are having to suffer. Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: 21:05 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine dropped by about a fiver this year, £99.85p for my Trophy, fully comp. Dance!

So there are some good things about being an old fart thank god.
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me Bennetts was the cheapest this year - fully comp, with NCD protection, mods declared* £360

Performance Direct renewal quote was slightly more expensive mainly due to their 'Renewal Transaction Fee' of £36.. but that was enough for me not to renew with them.

I normally would expect loyalty discount but that doesn't work like that with insurance companies.

*- my only mod is exhaust end can... if I didn't have any modifications the cheapest quote is £250... so I pay £110 more a year for 1 mod that doesn't change anything except sound.
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a racket for certain.
If I use the same quote engine to find the cheapest every year and at the same time, I very rarely find that the current insurer is still cheapest.
The only thing on my side of the deal that has changed is my machinery and I are both 1 year older and my NCD has improved by 1yr (but I'm Maxed out on that now).
So why does my current insurer not want my business this year?
Are the bastirts all just one big super-syndicated-scam trying to generate some sense of an artificial bagain?

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PostPosted: 06:39 - 25 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZ wrote:
*- my only mod is exhaust end can... if I didn't have any modifications the cheapest quote is £250... so I pay £110 more a year for 1 mod that doesn't change anything except sound.


If it doesn't affect performance I honestly wouldn't declare it. They'd have a very hard time arguing that a replacement end can had any impact on whether you crashed or not. Only possibly a problem if you have fully comp and want to get the value of it back or it gets nicked. As all the aftermarket bits of my bikes are worth barely anything and aren't for performance gains that doesn't bother me.
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PostPosted: 06:57 - 25 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine decreased by 60 odd quid, 177 with Bennetts down to 110 with Carole Nash

That's for an 865cc armchair parked 'on private property's but not garaged
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PostPosted: 06:58 - 25 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

UnspeedySam wrote:


If it doesn't affect performance I honestly wouldn't declare it. They'd have a very hard time arguing that a replacement end can had any impact on whether you crashed or not.


Good job the insurer doesn't have to prove that, then, isn't it.

All the insurer has to prove is inducement into contract which is easy.

You're giving really poor advice.
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PostPosted: 07:42 - 25 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

£96 TPFT for a K1 GSXR1000 down from £105 last year. Street parked, living in a small town in rural Wiltshire.

Fuck living in a city some of those quotes Shocked
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