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andym
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 25 Aug 2017    Post subject: Finally have proper brakes... Reply with quote

.... and I don't like them.

Yesterday I decided to fit the new(ish) brake discs I got, also gave the calipers a quick spray with brake cleaner and took the bike for a test ride along the motorway.... I came off a couple of junctions later (about 4 miles), and noticed smoke coming from 1 of the calipers, so I got back on the motorway and headed home (slowly).

When I got to the lockup rather than risk touching the disc I decided to throw a little water on it.... which boiled off instantly Rolling Eyes

So after a short break I decided I needed to do something about them.... Turns out the pistons on 1 side of the left caliper weren't budging, but the other side was moving fine.... so a quick bodge with cable ties and an old brake pad I held the good side in and managed to get the sticky pistons out.... scraped all the shit off the pistons and caliper, slapped a little red rubber grease on the pistons and rebuilt everything.... bled the system..... and.....

Now I'm scared to touch the brakes for fear of doing a Rogerborg at a set of lights.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 25 Aug 2017    Post subject: Re: Finally have proper brakes... Reply with quote

andym wrote:
Now I'm scared to touch the brakes for fear of doing a Rogerborg at a set of lights.

Shocked Mad

Yeah, Luke out, eh?
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andym
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 25 Aug 2017    Post subject: Re: Finally have proper brakes... Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
andym wrote:
Now I'm scared to touch the brakes for fear of doing a Rogerborg at a set of lights.

Shocked Mad

Yeah, Luke out, eh?


Razz

Seriously though.... I'm used to having to mash the brakes (or send them a text to ask if they could think about slowing the bike), now if I look at the lever the bike slows rapidly
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 25 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably thank yourself for doing all the work now since it seems to become Suicide Sunday every day on the roads once the darkness spreads.
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 25 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

So let us know when you're scared enough to go back and scrape the corrosion out from under the seals.
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andym
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 26 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
So let us know when you're scared enough to go back and scrape the corrosion out from under the seals.


Depends on what seals you mean.... the last time I stripped and cleaned the calipers I scraped all the crud from under the piston and dust seals.... obviously I missed something somewhere because I've always had squishy brakes.... the only thing I done different this time was to remove the dust seals and pack in a load of red rubber grease Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 01:30 - 26 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't ask me how it works but for a quick 'firm up the lever' fix I recommend tying the lever back to the bar and leaving overnight. Also did this to the rear brake (tricky finding an anchor point) but by jove it works wonderfully.

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PostPosted: 09:26 - 26 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you sure you haven't just doused them in cleaner and it's burning off?

also you threw water on them when you thought they were really hot... should you be working on a bike?
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 27 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stinkwheel is referring to the fluid seals. It's corrosion under those that makes your brakes feel wooden. They might be powerful, but you can't feel anything - hence the fear of overdoing your braking.

Buy some brake fluid first. A set of piston removal pliers makes the job much easier.

Calipers unbolted, pads, pins and shims out.
Pump out the pistons one at a time, or use piston removal pliers. Fluid will go everywhere.
Remove the fluid seal from the caliper. Note which way round it goes.
Clean the fluid seal with some kitchen towel, do not use brake cleaner on it. Set it aside for now.
With a jeweller's screwdriver or a dentist's pick, scrape out the alloy corrosion powder from where the seal sits. Once it's scraped out, spray the area with brake cleaner to remove the last bit of crap.
Reinstall the seal carefully. Reinsert the piston.

Do this for all pistons, then refill with fluid and bleed the system using your favourite method. Enjoy brakes that work.
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 28 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before reinstalling the seals, I like to either coat them with silicone grease, or put silicone grease into the grooves. Silicone rather than red rubber grease because it's a bit slimier and easier to make sure there's a film over all surfaces. This helps prevent corrosion forming in the seal recesses.
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