Stinger Deployment

[choogh]

Given the use of police stingers to stop "get-a-way" cars and the like and given that deployment often results in vehicle crashes and injuries. Would the police deploy stinger to stop a motorcycle? The results of which could well be fatal..
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[doggone]

It would be against guidelines however the tyres don't go down instantly and making a particularly reckless getaway crash might still be lesser evil.
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[Keir]

yes I'm pretty sure they would in the right circumstances.
if you want to avoid the death hazard, stop when youre asked to.
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[Rogerborg]

[Tierbirdy]

Yes they will use stingers on bikes.

source: told by Traffic Popo whilst chatting with them about the subject of Pedbois at work.

[Itchy]

Finally...

https://i.imgur.com/Hy16BFb.jpg

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[stevo as b4]

So motorbike riders can use Acid attacks, knives, bats etc and steal your bike, snatch your phone/wallet and women's bags etc, and you are worried about using a stinger on them or giving chase because the poor innocent chav/pikey/thief/drug dealer/gangsta might get hurt?

The popo need to start using machetes through necks and then the heads for goal practice IMO!

[Itchy]

[ADSrox0r]

I have said it before but I've had this very conversation with a serving officer friend of mine and the answer is definively; yes, if the circumstances warrant it. If they feel the rider is endangering the public they can and will use a stinger on a motorcycle.
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[Itchy]

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Mousses

[ocatoro]

have a feeling these will be up for review shortly. they killed a fella with one on the M4 in south wales recently and he took out another car of people in the process...
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[Rogerborg]

[Kal]

Guess it depends of they feel that the occasional death is an acceptable loss. Kind of like tazers.
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[Ste]

Tasers were invented for shocking freementalists of the land who do not consent.

[Val]

[zark]

[mikester]

The MET are considering using them and/or developing new deployment methods given the acid attack/phone muggings going through the roof but nothing signed off officially yet.

Other forces do and have used stinger on bikes, SYP have done recently without issues.

The guidelines are that it is only to be used in very exceptional circumstances, i.e. counter terrorism and serious and organised crime. Not so be used a a mater of course for volume crime.

[Rogerborg]

[mikester]

[Rogerborg]

[zark]

Meh... stopsticks, stingers, barracuda - they're all brand names for HOSTYDs dontchaknow (hollow spike tyre deflation systems) Just so happens that stinger sounds better...

And the national police chiefs council says it's OK to use a HOSTYD against a motorbike or quad in certain circumstances.
Where possible, it is preferable to use pre-emptive tactics to prevent motorcycle and quad bike pursuits. The use of tactics given in the tactics directory, including tyre deflation devices may be proportionate and necessary to mitigate risk to the public, officers and subjects. It is accepted that the pre-emptive use of tactics carries some risk to rider(s), however, this risk is likely to be significantly lower than allowing the vehicle to be driven at speeds to avoid capture, regardless of the intention of the police to engage in a pursuit. (from here )

Don't see what the issue is... using a stinger doesn't mean fireyflameballofdeath, so... crack on Mr. Plod
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