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Posted: 16:46 - 18 Feb 2015 Post subject: Jawa 1000, why would they even... UPDATE, project canceled |
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UPDATE, project canceled, scroll down (End key on your keyboard).
Hello, it's been awhile since some pictures of the new Jawa 1000 leaked. The 1000cc, made by Jawa, twin cylinder engine was announced years ago and no one really thought they'd pull this off. Well, it is here and uglier than ever. You can clearly see the gov. money wasted on some tasteless engineer's dream.
Jawa got approx. 530,300GBP from the gov. for the prototype. They are also talking about a all purpose 1200cc motorcycle.
Original link: https://www.motorkari.cz/clanky/moto-novinky/jawa/podivejte-se-na-neoficialni-fotky-nove-jawy-1000-30546.html
https://img.motorkari.cz/upload/images/cache/clanky/2015-01/20150129100254-30546_jpgresize_1000x830__type_jpg_.jpg
https://img.motorkari.cz/upload/images/cache/clanky/2015-01/30546/20150129100157-02_jpg_resize_1000x830__type_jpg_.jpg
https://img.motorkari.cz/upload/images/cache/clanky/2015-01/30546/20150129100157-01_jpg_resize_1000x830__type_jpg_.jpg
https://motodenik.cz/obrazky/1719/03_full.jpg
The last picture demonstrates the inspiration in the Diavel.
https://img.motofotky.cz/upload/images/forum/2014/13/215627_jawaduc.png ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Posted: 17:26 - 18 Feb 2015 Post subject: |
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The price tag will possibly change your mind. Jawa does not make expensive motorcycles, their basic model of the 660 is 168,500CZK, which at the moment is approx. 4,505GBP. But, I can imagine this one going around 250,000CZK/6,684GBP. And just look around what does nearly 7000 pounds buy you these days.
1GBP = 37.4CZK. The Czech national bank devalued the currency for some reason, it used to be 1GBP = 29CZK not that long ago. So, it is perfect time to rape my country. They say they will raise the value of the currency at some point, so if it's gonna be back to let's say 30CZK for 1 pound, we're talking 8,333GBP for the Jawa 1000, if the price tag will be around the 250k CZK mark. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Interesting
I hope they can get some success with this and get back to producing bikes on the scale they used to. ____________________ I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now! |
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pepperami wrote: | Interesting
I hope they can get some success with this and get back to producing bikes on the scale they used to. |
The Jawa 660 is a quite sucesfull and well made modern motorcycle. They used Yamaha 660 XTZ engine, the previous 650 version had Rotax engine and the reviews are pretty good.
But as always, Czechs can not do the marketing, advertising, properly. To demonstrate what I mean, I doubt you'd have known a rather small car company called Skoda, if the VW did not own it. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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in my opinion the JAWA in this photo is fugly
however, I rather liked that electric scooter you posted about a few months ago |
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Posted: 00:54 - 19 Feb 2015 Post subject: |
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Just look at all those cup holders. Great for the American market
I also know what a real Skoda looks like. Now for the Skoda vs Lada debate. |
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https://www.jawamotorcycles.co.uk/660Sportard.html
Super Motard + Sports = Sportard
36 kw (48.8 bhp) at 6500 rpm -Can be restricted to conform to A2 license
JUST over A2 power, but not great from a 660.
Dry weight 195 kg (429 lbs) |
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G wrote: | https://www.jawamotorcycles.co.uk/660Sportard.html
Super Motard + Sports = Sportard
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I do agree the twin cup holders are rather good though. Will Honda copy them on the next Goldwing! ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Old Thread Alert!
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UPDATE
... and the whole Jawa 1000 and 1200 project is canceled.
They canceled the Jawa 1000/837 project, after 10 years of rumors and ''R&D''. The fun does not stop there, obviously. The whole project, that being the Jawa 1000/837 and a 1200cc enduro version, was co-financed from the tax payers money. There will be Police investigation.
The reasons for the cancelation:
1) The whole development took far too long and the machine/s is/are already outdated and wouldn't sell well.
2) Jawa lied about the development of their own 1000cc/1200cc engine. They just bought a MZ 1000 engine and put fake panels on it to cover it up. That is also where the Police started asking questions, because Jawa used 48m CZK of tax payers money to develop their own engine + two motorcycles (1000/1200 enduro), while failing to fufil any criteira of the subsidy. No body also knows, where the money went. According to the law, they were supposed to introduce a production version of the Jawa 1000 and 1200 by a given date, which they obviously failed to do.
*The management of the company lied to the bitter end. Last year they claimed they will release the Jawa 1000/1200 in the Q1 of 2017.
They were supposed to get 93m CZK in subsidies. For some reason they only used 48m CZK and they paid the rest + reconstruction of their factory and other bits (about 100m CZK) out of their own pocket. Yet again, 5-0 has a few questions here.
3) The 1000cc engine, they had, didn't even fulfil EURO 4, let alone EURO 5 (2021) and they didn't have the money to modify the MZ 1000 engine to make it compliant.
The top left picture (fake clutch cover and cylinders) is what was presented in 2015, the bottom picture is the same Jawa a bit later on (the fake cylinders cover removed) and the top right picture is a stock MZ 1000 engine.
https://motosvet.cz/images/com_droppics/102/jaw8.jpg?1509815432916 ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 320 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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