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Posted: 22:03 - 14 Nov 2017 Post subject: Re: Evoke - Starting to be a company to watch? .. |
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Electric vehicles have had rather a long time to 'take off' - what with being older than ICE vehicles.
The limitation for the use that most people want, as ever; is batteries. And that's a technology that is needed for a significant portion of modern devices.
Of course - whether society/behaviour will adapt is another matter. |
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Posted: 00:02 - 15 Nov 2017 Post subject: Re: Evoke - Starting to be a company to watch? .. |
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Electric vehicles have had rather a long time to 'take off' - what with being older than ICE vehicles.
The limitation for the use that most people want, as ever; is batteries. And that's a technology that is needed for a significant portion of modern devices.
Of course - whether society/behaviour will adapt is another matter. |
AFAIK it's a case of they had their time (early 1900s) where they outsold the alternatives. It was a while ago but I recall a programme with James May where he said the range of electric vehicles wasn't radically different from back then. I realise we're talking about something bimbling along compared to keeping up with modern traffic, but range/recharge seems to be the continual sticking point until one of the promised breakthroughs materialise. |
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Posted: 00:21 - 15 Nov 2017 Post subject: Re: Evoke - Starting to be a company to watch? .. |
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Someone actually made a (albeit very much a 'prototype') electric bike in 1867!
New energy storage technologies are the big stumbling block.
But if it's a case of fast recharge, rather than a (Mr Fusion style, please ) Fuel Cell; we're going to introduce a whole array of other problems if they take off - namely getting said energy to where we want it.
If Energy is stored in chemical means transferred in a liquid/gas; it's a good bit less of a problem.
There's still a lot of good options for swappable batteries too, I'd say - but the realities of our society get in the way of that.
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=%E7%94%B5%E5%8A%A8%E6%BB%91%E6%9D%BF%E8%BD%A6&acm=lb-zebra-241046-2075404.1003.4.1812254&scm=1003.4.lb-zebra-241046-2075404.OTHER_14952593768552_1812254
Seems most use lithium on there (using Chrome's translate and looking at the size/shape of them.) |
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Posted: 09:35 - 15 Nov 2017 Post subject: Re: Evoke - Starting to be a company to watch? .. |
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Posted: 11:34 - 15 Nov 2017 Post subject: Re: Evoke - Starting to be a company to watch? .. |
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I nearly got run over several times by such things in Portugal last week. Harder to hear than a bicycle which at least has some clicking from the freewheel. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 14:39 - 15 Nov 2017 Post subject: Re: Evoke - Starting to be a company to watch? .. |
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G wrote: | Another option is to use these batteries as a plug-in store for the grid. |
Sure, who wouldn't want their car putting itself through unnecessary charge/discharge cycles, trusting that you'll only be billed for the net usage, and that it'll be fully charged when you need it?
Only sane, rational people, that's who. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Ah; but then it's exactly the sort of thing a lot of the frozen-in- ICE-dinosaurs want, to consider replacing their pollutmobile.
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Would milking Tef be considered a renewable fossil resource? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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ScaredyCat wrote: | Shell have just installed their first charger, on a forecourt in that London. They aim to install more and more. BP are also following suit.
At the moment it's expensive to use, even with Shell's half price deal, but it's a start. Especially with the 2 big fuel providers getting in on it.
Faster chargers are on the horizon (150kw/h ones) but no mainstream car can currently use them.
Porsche has a 350kW charger that charges to 80% in 15 minutes. |
It's still 15 minutes, or 30 if you are second in the queue, or 45 if 3rd. Bloody useless.
Thursday 13th September 2012, the Cobham Service Area, home to the UK’s largest filling station*, opens on the M25. It knocks Shell Beaconsfield off the top spot, which opened in 2009 on the M40 in Buckinghamshire. With 36 forecourt pumps and six dedicated high-speed HGV pumps totalling 141 nozzles, the site in Surrey can serve around 3,400 cars a day.
Hmm, how long will I have to wait if it changes to electric and I'm the 3,399 car to arrive, ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 213 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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