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meyrick
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 13 Mar 2005    Post subject: New Battery Charger - very confused.... :-/ Reply with quote

Hello, bit of insight needed...

I finally ordered a heated waistcoat and in anticipation of the thrashing it will give my electrical system, a battery charger as well.

The charger (Oxford Oximiser) is the kind that has a seperate connector for the battery so you can plug in when you park up in the garage every day. Now, according to my Haynes manual (for the Honda CB125T):

"If charging from an external source with the battery on the machine, disconnect the leads, or the rectifier will be damaged"

Does that mean my plan to top up my battery is going to involve removing all the leads from the battery every day? Rolling Eyes Brick Wall Why would it be designed in such a stupid way?

Also:

"Before charging check that the battery vent is clear or, where no vent is fitted, remove the combined vent/filler caps."

The battery has a clear plastic tube poking out one end that leads to nowhere. Is that the vent, or is a vent something else? I don't want the battery to burst all over my bike, nor do I want to have to take off bloody caps every day as well.

Any ideas?

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nick.h
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 13 Mar 2005    Post subject: Re: New Battery Charger - very confused.... :-/ Reply with quote

meyrick wrote:

The battery has a clear plastic tube poking out one end that leads to nowhere. Is that the vent, or is a vent something else?

Any ideas?



Not sure what a 'vent' is, but im quite sure that the plastic tube poking out of the battery is the acid overflow.
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 13 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Battery Vent Tubing

or maybe it is the vent, is this the type of tubing?
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 13 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oximisers/Optimates are designed for charging the battery in-situ, no need to disconnect anything.

The plastic pipe is indeed the vent/overflow - it lets out the hydrogen given off by a working battery and will also direct any electrolyte away from anything important (if it's routed correctly) should the battery start to 'boil'.
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 13 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does that mean my plan to top up my battery is going to involve removing all the leads from the battery every day? Why would it be designed in such a stupid way


This means that you have to take the battery off of the bike before you charge it.

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removing all the leads from the battery every day


There's only 2 leads, it will take a minute to take off, and another to put back on, depending on the access you have to it.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 13 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

take off either minus or plus and connect directly on the battery . mind the charge must not exceed 1/12 of the battery's capacity
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 13 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

rieju.rs1.evolution wrote:
is this the type of tubing?


Yeah, that's the stuff. I think this must be the vent, like Guest says.

rieju.rs1.evolution wrote:
There's only 2 leads


At the moment there are 4, soon to be 6-8, but I take your point, only two bolts to undo. Unfortunately mine are a royal pain in the ass to get to, hence I was hoping to be able to charge 'in situ' as per the oximiser instructions. At the moment I think I'm safe assuming the pipe is the gas vent, but I'm not so sure I won't blow up the rectifier if I plug this charger in with the electrical system still connected. The manual seems pretty clear on that one. Meh! Crying or Very sad

I was thinking I could wire in a chunky 20A switch so I could 'disconnect' the battery that way...best I can come up with at the mo.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 13 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guest wrote:
Oximisers/Optimates are designed for charging the battery in-situ, no need to disconnect anything.



I've had an Oximiser for over 6 years now - I fitted a socket on the side panel and plug it in as soon as I put the bike away. No disconnecting, no trouble.

The manual is talking about 'car' battery chargers.
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 13 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, fast chargers will frazzle your electrics when used with everything onnected. Not an issue with a smart mutlistage charger like the oximiser.
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 13 Mar 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just add a lead with the special connector to your battery, just tuck it into a fairing when not being used, and attach it as need be, no need to disconnect anything else.

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