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Posted: 15:43 - 20 Oct 2017 Post subject: Electric motor |
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Just watched this episode of Fully Charged and thought it might be of interest to some.
https://youtu.be/4k5TDZ6irG4?t=6m54s
Petrolheads note I'm not advocating for electric motorbikes, just interested to see what the industry is up to. |
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Just watched some Formula E on the tube. It reminds me of Multiplayer racing games. Brakes, nah, the car in front will slow me down |
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TMF did a review of the Zero DSR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwAkW6OQXuI
The standard 2017 DSR model without fast charge addon takes 10 hours to charge on a standard plug and can do upto 163 miles city driving / 78 miles motorway.
70 hp, 116 ft-lb torque, 190kg. Costs around £14,500 depending on options. |
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I'm lolling quite hard at the Learner Legal "11kW" version producing 59hp and 80 foot-torques
That's taking the piss with an industrial milking machine. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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vanderbale wrote: | TMF did a review of the Zero DSR.
The standard 2017 DSR model without fast charge addon takes 10 hours to charge on a standard plug and can do upto 163 miles city driving / 78 miles motorway.
70 hp, 116 ft-lb torque, 190kg. Costs around £14,500 depending on options. |
to be fair, I've yet to find a really bad review of a Zero, plenty who spout off, about had bad electric bikes are, without ever having ridden 1 etc. If they can eek just that little more range out for next year's model, I might well be in the market for 1, or, even if where I work put in EV charging points .. ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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There are various odds and sods of joke spec disposable trinkets offered now and again.
Some of the least non-credible at the moment are:
https://vmoto-uk.com/v120l/
https://supersoco.co.uk/
Posterity, don't karma judge me if those links go the way of most e-trinket offerings.
Again though, Yamaha are already on the second generation of vapourware with their long, long, long promised PED / PES affordable e-bikes. They haven't yet figured out a way to make e-trinkets economically for the mass market, despite all the magical thinking about lithium technology somehow getting cheaper as demand for limited resources rises. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Meh.
Got all excited until I saw the speed ratings... 45mph is not fast enough for at least half my commute without making me a target for cage ragers and lorries on a single cartridge way
May as well get a few old laptop batteries and whack a motor on my pedal bike and take the scenic route through the countryside ... |
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Its frustrating because as shown above, leccy can be exciting, but I guess circumstances as much as anything (new tech, lack of production/infrastructure, no older second hand bikes going cheaper etc) mean its going to be expensive for a while yet...
I would 100% be interested in the above bike if it wasn't more than half the average national income?!
Could be interesting to hack apart an older sports bike and try hash together something for the track? Wonder what MSV would think about bringing a leccy bike to a track day?
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There are other cheaper Zero's that will easily cover your range ..
https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/eu/zero-s
Take off the Government subsidy, ~£1500 from the above price
Or..
There will be the Evoke hopefully for sale mid to late spring ..
https://evokemotorcycles.co.uk/#Technical
Still a fairly useable range, and I think the price, after subsidy will be around £7000-£8000 ?
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£8,000 is just shy of what I recently paid for an immaculate 24 month old nissan juke with 11,000 miles on the clock, bells and whistles, returning 60 mpg (Usually drive in eco mode admittedly, bikes are for fun, not cars...).
I struggle to equate that with a little 'practical' leccy bike?
Heck I paid £1.8k for an immaculate 99 R1 that I struggle to 'fully utilise' (being sensible and all that). I wonder how many miles it would take for the £8,000 or £14,000 electric bike to make up the difference in petrol costs (if the batteries survive that long?).
I appreciate I'm not comparing like for like (new for new) but when that's whats available on the market, you've got to have a pretty serious cash surplus situation to pay that many times over for the 'save the planet' option.
Who knows. Maybe in a few decades you will be able to pick up a 10-15 year old E-SuperSport bike and chuck in some cheap chinese battery packs and get the miles of smiles on a budget as I did with the Yammie, but for now it's just crap value for money over the alternatives available (maybe why the government has pledged to take the alternatives away in the near future?) |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 147 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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