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TheMadRatter
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 15 Mar 2018    Post subject: 138mph in a 60 zone, 90 day ban £635 costs Reply with quote
I wish I was as lucky as Pablo!


https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/crime/2018/03/15/biker-clocked-doing-astonishing-138mph-on-a5/
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 15 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
He should of know better than to speed down the A5 on a sunny day. North wales is just full of police, so much that some bikers just don't go anymore.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 15 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
S1000RR again. No need for, etc.

He did get off amazingly lightly though - they'll be queueing up to get in front of those magistrates.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 15 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
How do I swap my date/court?
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wristjob
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 15 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
if its a camera van cant you just refuse to identify the rider and take the 6 points for that offence?


i dont know but its worth a try.
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 15 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Someday, somewhere, somehow, a ‘journalist’ will accurately report the make and/ or model of bike involved in a news article.
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Courier265
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 15 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
only a 90 day ban? slap on the wrist....
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 15 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just 138 mph? Did he miss a gear or something? Confused
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 15 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
wristjob wrote:
if its a camera van cant you just refuse to identify the rider and take the 6 points for that offence?


i dont know but its worth a try.


So you mean you'll wriggle and squirm and try anything to get out of the shit once caught?

If a calibrated fixed cam gets you for doing 138 in a 60, why exactly do you think you should walk free? Or should all biker's be exempt from motoring laws and speed limits?

It's not like doing a cheeky 38-40mph in a 40, or just under 100 on a nice empty dual carriageway? The guy didn't accidentally more than double the speed limit, he accelerated like a mother fucker way past insta ban speed if caught.

Its got nothing to do with it being a BMW with 200bhp, he could have been on a 15year old CBR 600. Rider went full retard on the public highway, and you want a free pass?
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PostPosted: 08:37 - 16 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevo as b4 wrote:
It's not like doing a cheeky 38-40mph in a 40, or just under 100 on a nice empty dual carriageway?



Just out of interest, what would the typical fine be for riding at 93 in a 70 (M5 motorway at night)?
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 16 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
wristjob wrote:
if its a camera van cant you just refuse to identify the rider and take the 6 points for that offence?

Sure, you can do that.

It doesn't mean that they won't prosecute you anyway. Doors go get put in and gear seized and compared to pictures.
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bikenut
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 16 Mar 2018    Post subject: speedo Reply with quote
Yeah right, should have had an instant ban and the bike crushed, the speed limits are there for a reason, bloody bmw drivers/riders.
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 16 Mar 2018    Post subject: Holdawayt Reply with quote
You can look here for some idea

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item/speeding-revised-2017/
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TheMadRatter
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 16 Mar 2018    Post subject: Re: speedo Reply with quote
bikenut wrote:
Yeah right, should have had an instant ban and the bike crushed, the speed limits are there for a reason, bloody bmw drivers/riders.


Extenuating circumstances - "I'm sorry your honour, I was distracted looking for the indicator stalk and didn't realise how powerful the bike was..."
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Evil Hans
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 16 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
wristjob wrote:
if its a camera van cant you just refuse to identify the rider and take the 6 points for that offence?


i dont know but its worth a try.



Maybe he was on 6 points already, in which case another 6 would have won him a 6 month totting up ban!
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 16 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
S1000RR again. No need for, etc.

He did get off amazingly lightly though - they'll be queueing up to get in front of those magistrates.


For an offence of speeding that isn't particularly light. The guideline the court would have used is at https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item/speeding-revised-2017/

The only option the court has is a ban and a fine - they can't go up into community orders or prison for speeding. For a speed of 91+ in a 60, the guideline is up to 56 days and a band C fine (1.5 weeks income), with a note saying they can exceed that for speeds "grossly in excess". In this case they went up to 90 days, and depending what the guy earns that fine looks big for a band C too.

Where I think he was lucky was not to be charged with careless or dangerous driving, then he could be looking a prison time.

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bikenut
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 16 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
"I'm sorry your honour, I was distracted looking for the indicator stalk


he's a bmw driver/rider, they don't know what they are ffs !!!
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 16 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
bikenut wrote:
"I'm sorry your honour, I was distracted looking for the indicator stalk


he's a bmw driver/rider, they don't know what they are ffs !!!


Funny enough, when I drove my mate's BMW, I forgot to use the turn signals several times. The car made me do it! Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 16 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks like Mike Gray might be in high demand in future after his work on this one..
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 16 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fucking slow piece of shit.
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 17 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
S1000RR again. No need for, etc.

He did get off amazingly lightly though - they'll be queueing up to get in front of those magistrates.


Bastirts. I got nicked by a fat twat in a van for doing 35 in a 30 on a S1000RR (with dynamic race package on-board) never made a jot of difference to the 3 points and the £100 fine. Shocked
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 19 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
How do the guys in the Van get you? on the way up to them and then note down the number plate as you go past?

If so, can't you slow down and hold your hand over the plate as you go past the front? Just wondering...

Or could use one of them number plate flippers..
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BLB_Rich
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 19 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why is it majority of speeding incidents I see on bikes involve S1000RR's?

Seem to the modern day equivalent of the GSXR for people getting on & just ragging them.
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TheMadRatter
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 19 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rat_Rich wrote:
Why is it majority of speeding incidents I see on bikes involve S1000RR's?


R1 for a change?

https://www.facebook.com/NYPTrafficBureau/posts/730107900528118

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29243876_730107793861462_7533070215651786752_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=03107f79cbdd16a28603d7b94eaf402c&oe=5B28147D

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29249339_730107843861457_8848240590970683392_n.png?_nc_cat=0&oh=7cd279145a5a2ea423ecb1c5d9c90e80&oe=5B34D40A

He went to the extreme of stopping and covering his plate...

£200 fine, 9month custodial sentence suspended for a year, 150 hours community service, and just 3 points on his license...

What happened to the sentencing guidelines?!
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 19 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
how did they find him??

like kudos for his attempt, but the only way i can see them catching him is if he's shit in his own back yard... the idea is to trek out to places once every few months (rotate where you go) so they can't pinpoint it on you?
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