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PostPosted: 11:02 - 27 Mar 2018    Post subject: Stupid question but how do I know if I have a radiator leak Reply with quote

I had quite a lot of steam coming up from my radiator area this morning for the middle hour of a 100 minutes journey but being mechanically stoopid I’m not sure if it was just because it was so wet the front wheel was covering the radiator with wet and grimy stuff or if there was a genuine problem.

How can I tell if there’s a problem. Please help before I embarrass myself forever with my local garage.
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 27 Mar 2018    Post subject: If it helps Reply with quote

My bike is a 15 plate suzuki gsx 650f with 5,500 on the clock, which I have owned for about 7 weeks and night from a suzuki dealer.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 27 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes when i come to a stop at the lights etc there will be steam coming from the engine/radiator/exhaust areas.

i always assume it was becasue

a: i am ghost rider
and
b: rain getting onto hot metal things.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 27 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just keep an eye on the level in the header tank.

Sounds like its fine though, just rain on the hot radiator and exhaust. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 27 Mar 2018    Post subject: Re: Stupid question but how do I know if I have a radiator l Reply with quote

Davemc37 wrote:
How can I tell if there’s a problem

Um, check if you still have coolant.

If it was steaming, and it's stopped steaming, it's because you've not leaked coolant, or you've leaked all your coolant.
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 27 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coolant level cold on the Normal Line = No leak.

Coolant level cold below the Normal Line = Leak.
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 27 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

We ought to have a Workshop section for questions like this Wink
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 27 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

so crazy it just might work
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 27 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep an eye on the temperature.

Through experience you should know the bike temperatures at different speeds and different parts of your ride.


If the bike is unusually hot and doesn't cool down to normal cruising temperatures then there might be a problem with your cooling system.

My current CBR had a crack on the overflow pipe. It meant that when it got to 100c it went into the expansion bottle but some of it leaked out through the crack. Normally the temp stays at 79-82 when riding normally and up to 98-107 when stopped at traffic lights/slow filtering.

I knew there was a problem when it got to temperature really quickly (about half a mile from cold) and kept on climbing and wouldn't go below 98.

Even fast motorway work would only get it down to 87 and it would shoot back up. I got home and replaced the radiator.


On my other CBR same symptom got hot really quickly and wouldn't go down to normal cruising temperatures. This was just low coolant as the radiator cap had not been done up right.
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 27 Mar 2018    Post subject: Re: Stupid question but how do I know if I have a radiator l Reply with quote

Davemc37 wrote:
I had quite a lot of steam coming up from my radiator area this morning for the middle hour of a 100 minutes journey but being mechanically stoopid I’m not sure if it was just because it was so wet the front wheel was covering the radiator with wet and grimy stuff or if there was a genuine problem.

How can I tell if there’s a problem. Please help before I embarrass myself forever with my local garage.


It was pissing down this morning. Rain on a hot engine = steam. I got a veritable cloud of it off my bike at Kidbrooke lights.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 27 Mar 2018    Post subject: It would help if I knew where the coolant level was Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Coolant level cold on the Normal Line = No leak.

Coolant level cold below the Normal Line = Leak.


I didn’t get a user manual with the bike so I guess I should trawl the net to find one for peace of mind.

Anyway there was no sign of leave when I headed home tonight and the bike performed as normal on the 30 miles Home so I guess it was just down to lots and lots of steam .
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 28 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get this all the time on the SV, especially when you lean the bike over on the stand having just stopped riding. Might just be the water pooling somewhere, and then pouring onto hot bits when the angle is right.
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 28 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weirdly I have never encountered this at all.. Either because my fairings dont drip onto hot pipes or because I dont ride much (if at all) in the wet :p I have pictures of ghost rider at the lights haha Very Happy

ps. It's definitely NOT a stupid question to ask about a possible radiator leak... The stupid thing to do would be to ignore / assume it's alright and then end up with a ruined head gasket/cylinder..
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 28 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

AshWebster wrote:
Weirdly I have never encountered this at all.. Either because my fairings dont drip onto hot pipes or because I dont ride much (if at all) in the wet :p I have pictures of ghost rider at the lights haha Very Happy

ps. It's definitely NOT a stupid question to ask about a possible radiator leak... The stupid thing to do would be to ignore / assume it's alright and then end up with a ruined head gasket/cylinder..


Totally agree. No question is ever too stupid if you learn from it. It's when you ask a question and ignore the responses completely stupidity becomes involved. Wink

Find your coolant header tank - not this does not have to be at the top of the radiator, mine isn't.

Check level - between min and max Thumbs Up

Check level again later - between min and max Thumbs Up No leak.

Please don't worry if it varies between the minimum and maximum marks. It's also known as an expansion tank.
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 28 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Bandit has been known to chuck out steam like Thomas the Tank Engine when it's raining. Rain

And it's an air-cooled Bandit!

Keep an eye on the fluid levels, and if/when it steams on a dry road, then start to worry Wink
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 28 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evil Hans wrote:
My Bandit has been known to chuck out steam like Thomas the Tank Engine when it's raining. Rain

And it's an air-cooled Bandit!



No such thing. Bandits are oil cooled or water cooled.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 28 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
No such thing. Bandits are oil cooled or water cooled.


You know what I mean, pedant! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 30 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinK98 wrote:
Sometimes when i come to a stop at the lights etc there will be steam coming from the engine/radiator/exhaust areas.

i always assume it was becasue

a: i am ghost rider
and
b: rain getting onto hot metal things.


i have the same but my bike has no radiator so im guessing option B is the correct one. also my exhaust wrap absorbs water
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 30 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

adengtg wrote:
also my exhaust wrap absorbs water

Devil's foreskin, bin 'em.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 30 Mar 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

adengtg wrote:
ColinK98 wrote:
Sometimes when i come to a stop at the lights etc there will be steam coming from the engine/radiator/exhaust areas.

i always assume it was becasue

a: i am ghost rider
and
b: rain getting onto hot metal things.


i have the same but my bike has no radiator so im guessing option B is the correct one. also my exhaust wrap absorbs water


How to kill an exhaust in the minimum time possible.
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