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PostPosted: 14:55 - 23 Apr 2018    Post subject: Rear view mirror help Reply with quote

I've recently bought a Lexmoto Tekken 125 and need some replacement mirrors as the factory ones are as much use as a concrete crash helmet (can either see my shoulder brilliantly or pretty much everything apart from whats behind me.

Any suggestions on longer stalked mirrors would be a great help
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 23 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motorcycles are not renowned for having good mirrors.
Unless a bigger tourer or commuter bike.

Angle them as best you can.

I can only see about 60% of shit behind me and I have to lift my elbow sometimes too.

'Heavy' people suffer more as their girth blocks the mirrors too.

Look for Mirror Extensions using Google. Is your Google not working? 😊

https://www.getgeared.co.uk/Motorcycle_Mirrors/Motorcycle_Mirrors_Adaptors?gclid=CjwKCAjwiPbWBRBtEiwAJakcpPIvm_ax7hBdqkpoiDlpFual-CkDYPt3KdgE3vp1FB-lF8iKpumCHBoCXaYQAvD_BwE
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 23 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP is poor, he's not going to be paying £25 for a couple of teeny extenders that aren't even extenders. Tut Tut

£9 delivered, currently working fine on my Ninja: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400711023510

But first wind your current mirrors out, check the thread size, and that you don't have those trick Yamaha ones with one backwards thread.
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 23 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:37 - 23 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
OP is poor, he's not going to be paying £25 for a couple of teeny extenders that aren't even extenders. Tut Tut

£9 delivered, currently working fine on my Ninja: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400711023510

But first wind your current mirrors out, check the thread size, and that you don't have those trick Yamaha ones with one backwards thread.


But but but.... I was only expressing the power of Google to the OP, Officer... 😔

I'd rather lose 1/2 a stone masel than fit stendirs to my bike. 😎
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 24 Apr 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:
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Fly with da.... wait, wut?
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 06 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lexmoto Venom's stock mirrors are good I have to admit. Much better than the ones I used to have on my kawasaki stocks when I had that.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 06 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bar end mirrors FTW. Been riding with mine for a couple of days now and they have been a revelation. Also look pretty damn cool.
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 07 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Motorcycles are not renowned for having good mirrors.
Unless a bigger tourer or commuter bike.

Angle them as best you can.

I can only see about 60% of shit behind me and I have to lift my elbow sometimes too.

'Heavy' people suffer more as their girth blocks the mirrors too.

Look for Mirror Extensions using Google. Is your Google not working? 😊

https://www.getgeared.co.uk/Motorcycle_Mirrors/Motorcycle_Mirrors_Adaptors?gclid=CjwKCAjwiPbWBRBtEiwAJakcpPIvm_ax7hBdqkpoiDlpFual-CkDYPt3KdgE3vp1FB-lF8iKpumCHBoCXaYQAvD_BwE


Lol i have to lift my elbow too to see behind me :p

The er6f has really narrow mirror angles.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 07 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

NutsyUk wrote:
The er6f has really narrow mirror angles.

Fairing mirrors can sod off. I spend ages trying to sort the mirrors on my GPZ500S, including cutting and extending them. On the Ninja 250, I just binned the fairing mirrors, put bar mirrors into the handily provided holes, and got on with campaigning for Ste for mod.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 07 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
NutsyUk wrote:
The er6f has really narrow mirror angles.

Fairing mirrors can sod off. I spend ages trying to sort the mirrors on my GPZ500S, including cutting and extending them. On the Ninja 250, I just binned the fairing mirrors, put bar mirrors into the handily provided holes, and got on with campaigning for Ste for mod.


heh... i might consider it.
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 07 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to my life-time.... it's a perenial problem.
In days of old, bikes did't have mirrors.... they weren't even a requirement of the C&U reg's until the '80's and there's still loop-holes for a bike not to have them.... WHICH it has to be said is NOT such a bad thing!!

When I did my 'Part 1', precursor to CBT umpety decades ago, there was actually a Bearded Brummy coppa who did a lot of the instructing, who wandered about, and arbiterily removed or angled to useless positions the students mirrors.. "LEARN TO LOOK!" Was his mantra....

And I have to confess, it is one that holds truth and more than a little validity, even into the modern era.

There is a niggle with modern trends for bikes to come factory fitted with mirrors, and for the majority of riders to not be fresh-faced teens who cut thier teeth on mopeds, but 'older' riders probably already with a car licence in thier pocket, and hence likely mirror-dependent, REALLY struggling with the rear-observations needed on a motorbike, and trying to do it all, on the mirrors, cos they are there, or that's what they are used to and NEVER looking over thier shoulder......

Hint.... crap mirrors on a learner bike COULD actually be doing you a favour, begging you DONT trust them, and DO learn to make good and useful obervations, NOT relying ion wobbly reflecta-glass..... and on a learner-bike, that's a double wammy, getting you in that habbit of doing decent rear obs and not becoming mirror dependent, whilst you are still learning.

Moving on.... I'm 6'2~" ish, and broad accross the shoulders; I only have something like a 36" chest size for a shirt, but I have to buy jackets in the 46" chest or larger range, to get my arms in and not have the wrists some-where round my elbows! This does not bode well for wing mirrors showing much more than my shoulders.... B-U-T

Little bike or small, they are rated by the size of fire-hole in the engine; but they generally have handle-bars of the same width, around 26" irrespective of that.

Handlebar mirrors are notorious; the bars themselves are stuck out on a limb, and you have a stalk, they ARE virtually garanteed to shake at some RPM. Frame/Fairing mounted mirrors wont move with the steering; they may be better mounted or isolated from engine vibration, and shake a tad less, but they also tend to be closer together, so whether you can actually see any more in them, and whether you can see anything useful in them remains debateable.

Over the years!?!?

This problem has crept up time over time over time. Me, personally, have tried getting smart and getting a bit more useful vision from whatever mirrors have been to hand, whether I have had to buy them or not; from drilling holes in the backs and filling them with sand or loading them with air-gun-pellets or strands of solder to change the resonant mass! Adding extenders or alternative brackets; shifting brake-clutch brackets further inboard or outboard up the handle-bar...

ULTIMATELY... the mirrors are STILL a problem... maybe more or less of one; maybe the shakes start at less used revs etc, and I have succeeded in making them 'maybe' a bit more useful....

BUT..... absolutely NO substitute for Learning to Look.. and just NOT becoming dependant on the bludy mirrors... learn to live as if they aren't there at all, even if they are.... they cant be relied on, so LEARN TO LOOK.

Do proper rear observations. Means actually moving head and looking behind BEFORE performing a manouver, and doing side glances during and after one... And habityualised, you see more, you see more that';s useful, and IF a mirror gets knocked or broke, or shakes.. you STILL see the hazard 'cos you aren't dependent on the unreliable mirror...

And that's it really..... following advice of bearded old bloke of old, JUST take the things of, so you HAVE to look, get in the habit of NOT relying on mirrors from the off... beyond that... they can be helpful, but if you never learn to look, there's always going to be a possible blind sot, no matter HOW good the mirrors you fit may or may not be.

Its a very very cheap, and very very easy 'fix' too......
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