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Should Britain really leave the EU? |
Remain in the EU |
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Theresa May's version of remaining in the EU |
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Write "Leave the EU" on the ballot paper |
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Riejufixing wrote: | mpd72 CPT wrote: | Are you pretending that as it stands, after March 29th next year, the UK is not still tied to the customs union, ECJ, Single market, EU rules, regulations and the backstop. |
No. It will have left the EU though (won't it), and be in a thing called the "transition period". |
If I hold an apple in front of you and call it an orange, is it an orange?
You can't call it leaving the EU when were still tied to it, with even less control than before "leaving". If you're daft enough to see still being tied to the ECJ, the backstop, the customs union, still having no control over our fishing waters, still tied to their rules and regulations and still unable to negotiate our own trade deals, fill your boots.
It's just you and May though by the look of it, even parliament aren't daft enough to fall for her leave in nothing but name deal. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Monkeywrencher wrote: | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
Looks exactly as I saw it to me. Still, if it makes you feel happy to claim the intellectual high ground as usual, crack on. |
Apart from the last option which was in fact to spoil the ballot, not vote leave. ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
It's a pretty worthless vote when the establishment ignores it though, so you might as well consider it a spoilt vote.
Apparently, now leave won, it was only "advisory". No doubt if remain won, it would have been binding. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Riejufixing wrote: | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
If I hold an apple in front of you and call it an orange, is it an orange? |
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Nice dodge.
If I hold an apple in front of you and call it an orange, is it an orange?
It's a quite easy question, but clearly too awkward to answer.
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If we look back, before Cameron even suggested Brexit, did people in the UK even care about the ''freedom''?
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Don't go all Val on us. If the Tories weren't haemorrhaging votes to UKIP they would never have called a referendum. Cameron also used the promise of a referendum to get re-elected with a majority that they didn't have before, or after (when May lost it). |
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Riejufixing wrote: | mpd72 CPT wrote: | In all seriousness, please explain why you see this deal as a positive thing, when almost the entire country other than May and you, don't. |
We've been through all that. It quite clearly gets us out of the EU, and parliament won't have "no deal" so if it was "no deal" we'd stay in. It'd also be voted for by at least 2/3 of Conservative MPs, that's all in parliament except Remainers and hard Brexiters and (maybe) Labour because it sustains our trade until we get a trade deal with the EU and others.
Here's a question for you:
I want to leave. You say you want to leave. TM and most of the Conservatives want to leave.
Almost all the Labour people, right now, are going to try and make us stay in. All remainers by definition ARE going to try and make us stay in.
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You might call it leaving EUfixing, but it’s not is it?
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Don't go all Val on us. If the Tories weren't haemorrhaging votes to UKIP they would never have called a referendum. Cameron also used the promise of a referendum to get re-elected with a majority that they didn't have before, or after (when May lost it). |
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Wonder if AA voted leave or remain
Surely remaining in the EU would be better for business.
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The EU is falling apart at the seams. Belgian PM has resigned, France massive protests, Italy protesting over EU enforced budgets, Hungary refusing freedom of movement, UK leaving...
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