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PostPosted: 00:11 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Canít we get back on topic? No Dinduís stabbing people tonight then?

Do you actually care about understanding the root cause of a problem? If you just want to post a reactionary response to whatever has happened then that's fairly pointless.
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Canít we get back on topic? No Dinduís stabbing people tonight then?

Do you actually care about understanding the root cause of a problem? If you just want to post a reactionary response to whatever has happened then that's fairly pointless.


I think we all know what the root cause of the problem is. Unfortunately itís a crime to even suggest it nowadays, so all we can do watch the car crash develop.
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think we all know what the root cause of the problem is.

Immigrants? Black people? Yeah see I'm trying to go a bit deeper than that Thinking
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PostPosted: 01:15 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The tax payers welcome your future cooperation. One day, before you reach retirement, you may contribute too. Wink


I was reading about this earlier.

The student loan setup is actually a very clever model, and one I generally agree with as a mid-point between taxpayer-funded and self-funded education.

The idea of the student loan is very similar to how the entire income tax system works. Those who don't earn below a certain threshold don't pay income tax. Similarly those who earn below a certain threshold don't repay their student loans.

Do you equally despise everyone on a low income? Or just students and ex-students, because you're only capable of hating people and groups you have no connection with.


He's just a cunt who nobody likes, don't worry what he thinks. He's irrelevant anyway.
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think we all know what the root cause of the problem is.

Immigrants? Black people? Yeah see I'm trying to go a bit deeper than that Thinking


But itís not deeper though is it? We can pretend itís all societies fault, but in reality weíre importing millions from less civilised cultures, with violent tendencies and questionable morals, when compared to Western standards.

Exactly the same behaviour is rife in their ancestral countries.
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:00 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But itís not deeper though is it? We can pretend itís all societies fault, but in reality weíre importing millions from less civilised cultures, with violent tendencies and questionable morals, when compared to Western standards.

Exactly the same behaviour is rife in their ancestral countries.

What is your final solution then?
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But itís not deeper though is it? We can pretend itís all societies fault, but in reality weíre importing millions from less civilised cultures, with violent tendencies and questionable morals, when compared to Western standards.

Exactly the same behaviour is rife in their ancestral countries.

What is your final solution then?


Not again? Really? How many times?

Properly controlled immigration, you know, honestly controlled immigration, not fudged lies telling us how many the government pretend are coming here.

You've lived in London for a few decades. Are you telling me you haven't noticed a difference?

Just to get the ball rolling...

We then have to stop this PC bollocks which is hiding the problem and burying it under the carpet. We need to stop anti white racial discrimination, leaving some ethnic minorities with a feeling of being untouchable. We have to stop media and government hiding any links between race and crime. We have to encourage integration and discourage bending over backwards to assist those who refuse to integrate. We need to outlaw the more radical forms of Islam. We need to stop mosque building for Wahabbi Islam, by denying planning. We need to stop the loopholes with student visas and sham marriages, we need an ID card system. We need to stop benefits for fresh immigrants. We need to deport people who shouldn't be here. We need to prosecute people for FGM for once....
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not again? Really? How many times?

Exactly, how many times do you need to be asked how you'd deal with the current issues with the current population, whilst failing to give an answer. You'll notice most of the stabbing victims were born here Rolling Eyes Unless you have a time machine you can't undo immigration so your 'plan' won't achieve anything.

And no actually I've not noticed London changing, I can show you primary school photos where I was one of the few white people in the class (there was two of us), and school photos of siblings from the 80s where they were the only white person in the class.

I find archive footage of central London from the 70s/80s surprising, as I never remember it being that white. Go back to the Brixton riots of '81 and you'll see the problem stems back a lot further than when Sadiq took office Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Exactly, how many times do you need to be asked how you'd deal with the current issues with the current population, whilst failing to give an answer. You'll notice most of the stabbing victims were born here Rolling Eyes Unless you have a time machine you can't undo immigration so your 'plan' won't achieve anything.


You could try actually reading what I said. Did you miss the bit about integration? Also, as we are already overflowing with shitheads, capping the number of newly arrived shitheads might be a good idea no?

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And no actually I've not noticed London changing,


Well either your blind or ignorant then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_London#Ethnicity

In the 20 years from 1991 to 2011, the census (you know those who dare fill it in, so only legal occupants) show White population going down from 80% to 60% and that drop was even including a 79% increase in non British white, aka Europeans. White British dropped by 15% in the 10 years from 2001 to 11 alone.

Asian or British Asian + 59.63%
Black or Black British + 39.06%
Mixed race + 80%
"Other" including Arab + 148%

And during this time, the official population apparently only increased by less than 14%. These figures are only up to 2011, the figures since will have got even worse. There are millions of people in London who will not have been on the 2011 census and it doesn't take a genius to work out that the majority wont be white British.

Deny it the uncomfortable truth all you like, but the facts show you're wrong.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did you miss the bit about integration?

I saw it, so black people haven't integrated? Where do all these mixed raced kids come from then? Where are the mixed white/asian children by comparison? There might still be a them and us mentality but it's a lot better integration wise than with other groups (Asians, Orthadox Jews, Turks, Chinese etc..).

If integration was the issue then why don't we (always) have the same problems with other groups who integrate far less overall?

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Deny it the uncomfortable truth all you like, but the facts show you're wrong.

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You could try actually reading what I said.

This is the problem when some internet random, who I probably wouldn't even have a conversation with in real life, starts trying to use stats to disprove your life experience. The London I've known has always been 'diverse', the London you speak of might as well be Narnia.

You asked me had I noticed it changing, I answered honestly, and you tell me I'm wrong Rolling Eyes The change I have noticed has been EU immigration, Poles and Romanians arriving in large numbers.

For older generations yeah they remember the good old London, when everyone left their doors unlocked, and had good old fashioned cockney singalongs. They probably remember the arrival of commonwealth immigrants (50s/60s/70s).
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I saw it, so black people haven't integrated? Where do all these mixed raced kids come from then?


I got as far as that and lost the will to live. You understand that integration means more than sticking your dick in the local estate bike I take it?

I'm talking culturally, as I'm sure you're fully aware.

Do you think stabby stabby, drill rap, moped gangsta, drug dealer is a form of white culture being taken up by integrating black yoof? Really? I suppose you think the hundreds of arrested Pakistani child sex grooming gang members all learnt their trade from integrating to their white British host culture too and took the hobby back home to Pakistan?

What about FGM , whitey's fault again is it? Arranged marriages? Honour fillings? Islamic terrorism? Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 18:48 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:52 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I saw it, so black people haven't integrated? Where do all these mixed raced kids come from then?


I got as far as that and lost the will to live. You understand that integration means more than sticking your dick in the local estate bike I take it?

I'm talking culturally, as I'm sure you're fully aware.

Do you think stabby stabby, drill rap, moped gangsta, drug dealer is a form of white culture being taken up by integrating black yoof? Really? I suppose you think the hundreds of arrested Pakistani child sex grooming gang members all learnt their trade from integrating to their white British host culture too and took the hobby back home to Pakistan?

What about FGM , whitey's fault again is it? Arranged marriages? Honour fillings? Islamic terrorism? Rolling Eyes

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A very obvious point is being missed here. These black kids of which you speak were born here and are British, so integration is a non-issue.

Also, I understand why so many dentists are of Pakistani heritage now - its so they can get away with 'honour fillings'....
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I saw it, so black people haven't integrated? Where do all these mixed raced kids come from then?


I got as far as that and lost the will to live. You understand that integration means more than sticking your dick in the local estate bike I take it?

I'm talking culturally, as I'm sure you're fully aware.

Why have most of my friends been black then? Yet I had one Turkish friend, no Jews, no Chinese, even your favourite group South Asians mix more than those three.

You'll also notice... well you wouldn't but anyone else notices white and black kids seem quite happy to go #baklaf together. The black 15 year old melting faces had a white accomplice they never caught.

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A very obvious point is being missed here. These black kids of which you speak were born here and are British, so integration is a non-issue.

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You'll notice most of the stabbing victims were born here Rolling Eyes

For everyone else it's obvious, for someone if they can't blame immigration it doesn't compute Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not again? Really? How many times?

Properly controlled immigration, you know, honestly controlled immigration, not fudged lies telling us how many the government pretend are coming here.

You've lived in London for a few decades. Are you telling me you haven't noticed a difference?

Just to get the ball rolling...

We then have to stop this PC bollocks which is hiding the problem and burying it under the carpet. We need to stop anti white racial discrimination, leaving some ethnic minorities with a feeling of being untouchable. We have to stop media and government hiding any links between race and crime. We have to encourage integration and discourage bending over backwards to assist those who refuse to integrate. We need to outlaw the more radical forms of Islam. We need to stop mosque building for Wahabbi Islam, by denying planning. We need to stop the loopholes with student visas and sham marriages, we need an ID card system. We need to stop benefits for fresh immigrants. We need to deport people who shouldn't be here. We need to prosecute people for FGM for once....


All of these ideas would cost money, and the money would need to be spent on social schemes which have no direct economic value.

Thought you weren't into all that 'helping the poor and maladjusted' left wing stuff.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 11 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I got as far as that and lost the will to live.


And the day that becomes true is the day the world can rejoice.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 15 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/jaden-moodie-death-teen-was-riding-stolen-moped-before-he-was-killed-police-say-a4039166.html

Anyone surprised?
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 15 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.facebook.com/jaden.moodie

As it's only taken a week to establish that the ped was stolen, they should have the case all wrapped up by the weekend. Mr. Green

"His family say he was not involved with gangs, but he described himself on social media as a ďtrapper kidĒ (drug dealer) and in images online he is seen waving bundles of £50 notes and making gang signs."

Trapper kid is a wannabe roadman?
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 15 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/jaden-moodie-death-teen-was-riding-stolen-moped-before-he-was-killed-police-say-a4039166.html

Anyone surprised?


But he wasn't involved in gangs and drugs, oh no. He's a good boy who strokes the cat and kisses his Grandma good night before going out and d̶e̶a̶l̶i̶n̶g̶, seeing his friends. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 15 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyone surprised?

https://media.giphy.com/media/4OowbIsmYHbpu/giphy.gif

My one avenue of reasoning was that it was a 'communal' (strong community you know Wub) bike and he was mistaken for someone else. Gotta say it looks like he was trying to be gangstaaa, even if his family won't admit it.

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Trapper kid is a wannabe roadman?

I've no idea, I'm so out of touch with the youf.. gotta touch more youf Crying or Very sad. Urban dictionary has many definitions one of which might apply:
'The word trapper is a combination of the genre (trap) and the profession (rapper) of the artist.'

Maybe he dissed someone lyrically? Shocked
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Dissin' someone lyrically means drill music did it. Again.

I can't find where online he says he's a trapper kid, I guess it would have been on snapchat cos that's what all the kiddywinks use now and someone has been sending screenshots to the press. Laughing

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PostPosted: 21:50 - 15 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trapper is someone who runs the drugs - usually 'forced' into carrying drugs to people who have bought/ordered them.

Stolen ped?
Damn. I thought he'd bought it at a dealership..
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 15 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A very obvious point is being missed here. These black kids of which you speak were born here and are British, so integration is a non-issue.


I think the point he is trying to get around to is that they are black and therefore prone to violence.

You only need to go to the African section of BBC News site on any given day to see that there is a pattern here. I dont mind saying it, as I dont mind pointing out facts. People keep quiet about it, to save themselves from being called a racist, but it's plain to see. I doubt you can name a Black nation that hasn't had some kind of civil war in the last 20 years.
I could name quite a few that have had one in the last 5. Left to their own devices and in large groups, instead of coming together, blacks will fight and kill each other. They have pretty much done it the world over. Prove me wrong.
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Left to their own devices and in large groups, instead of coming together, blacks will fight and kill each other.

That's the plot of Black Panther Smile
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