Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


16-Year-olds riding 125cc Mopeds/Scooters?

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> Biking News & Rumours
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

Conor_
L Plate Warrior



Joined: 23 Jan 2019
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:22 - 23 Jan 2019    Post subject: 16-Year-olds riding 125cc Mopeds/Scooters? Reply with quote

Hi,
My name is Conor, I believe 16-year-olds should be allowed to ride 125cc Scooters even if they are restricted to around 50mph, the reason for this is it would reduce tailgaters and build up of traffic behind restricted 50cc scooters on the busier roads, it would also make it safer and reduce tailgaters behind the riders and stop the potential chance of an accident,

I have made a petition on the government website for this, if you agree with my point, please go ahead and sign it, it will only take a moment of your time, if you do not agree, I will not take any offense if anyone gives their view or explains why this would not work

Link:https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/238120/sponsors/new?token=iJ3KowMSUys0d8zpFhT
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

rs700
Derestricted Danger



Joined: 13 Feb 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:33 - 23 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

you have bob hope or no hope for wanting that. Why not wait a year and you can get a nice big car ?
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

linuxyeti
World Chat Champion



Joined: 06 Oct 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:51 - 23 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I generally agree, however, no chanve of getting the law changed, whuch is a shame
____________________
Current rides :- Hyosung ST7, Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor, F.B Mondial HPS 125
Previously owned bikes :- Chituma CTM-125, Jinlun JL250-5, Honda VTX1300, Suzuki GS500, Lifan LF400, Lexmoto Arrow 125, Yamaha XJ600 Diversion,Triumph America, Skyteam ST-125 V-Raptor, Royal Enfield 350 Bullet, Mash 400 Roadstar & Honley RX3 Venturer (Zhongshen RX3),CFMoto CF650TR,
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

The Shaggy D.A.
Super Spammer



Joined: 12 Sep 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:12 - 23 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always thought that the moped age should be dropped to 14, and 125 at 16, with usable restrictions. My V50P, being pre-77, could hit 55 and a 125 should be able to sit at 65 rather than have it as a top speed.

Reality is, it ain't gonna happen.
____________________
Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
Currently : Royal Enfield Classic 500 Despatch Limited Edition, 28 of 200
Previously : CB100N > CB250RS > XJ900F > GT550 > GPZ750R/1000RX > AJS M16 > R100RT > Bullet 500 > CB500 > LS650P > Bullet Electra X & YBR125 > Bullet 350 "Superstar" & YBR125 Custom
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

stinkwheel
Bovine Proctologist



Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:15 - 23 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

However, should 16 year old boys be trusted with a vehicle that can to go over 30mph? That is the question.

Having been a 16 year old boy with a moped myself once. I think the answer is a firm "No.".
____________________
“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Riejufixing
World Chat Champion



Joined: 24 Jun 2018
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:38 - 23 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: 16-Year-olds riding 125cc Mopeds/Scooters? Reply with quote

Conor_ wrote:
My name is Conor, I believe 16-year-olds should be allowed to ride 125cc Scooters even if they are restricted to around 50mph, the reason for this is it would reduce tailgaters and build up of traffic behind restricted 50cc scooters on the busier roads, it would also make it safer and reduce tailgaters behind the riders and stop the potential chance of an accident


I see you need 5 sponsors first.

I'd sign it if it merely said that "The maximum design speed for mopeds ridden by 16 year olds with completed CBT should be raised from 28MPH (45 km/h) to 40MPH (65Kph)" (or similar words).

You can add reasons if you like.

40MPH seems a decent compromise between safety and usability. I do not think there is any hope at all of raising the max CCs to 125, restricted or not, and I tend to agree with that.

Edit: Good luck, BTW.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

thx1138
World Chat Champion



Joined: 06 Oct 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 02:03 - 24 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

the government and the powers that be, and the powers behind the throne, hate motorcycles and want them banned.

you have no chance at all, but I wish you every success

don't think a single one of my friends had a "legal" 50cc when we were 16, though I waited until I was 17 to get a 125cc bike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Polarbear
Super Spammer



Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 02:46 - 24 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

As everyone else has said - nice idea, fat chance.
____________________
Triumph Trophy Launch Edition
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

rs700
Derestricted Danger



Joined: 13 Feb 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:07 - 24 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, if you spend a year fighting for this law change, bingo you are now 17 years old and can ride a 4 stroke 125cc bike legaly !

end of your problem..... Shocked
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

-.
Super Spammer



Joined: 29 Sep 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:31 - 24 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
I've always thought that the moped age should be dropped to 14

They seem to be riding them at that age anyway in London Shhh!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Confusion
Nitrous Nuisance



Joined: 02 May 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:03 - 24 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
However, should 16 year old boys be trusted with a vehicle that can to go over 30mph? That is the question.


You can ride an A1 bike at 16 here in Ireland.
https://www.ndls.ie/licence-categories.html

There are very few youngsters on bikes these days.
The new licensing system is gradually killing off biking.
____________________
Bandit 650SA, ZZ-R1100
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Jmoan
Spanner Monkey



Joined: 18 Nov 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:08 - 24 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
I've always thought that the moped age should be dropped to 14, and 125 at 16, with usable restrictions. My V50P, being pre-77, could hit 55 and a 125 should be able to sit at 65 rather than have it as a top speed.

Reality is, it ain't gonna happen.


It was for 14 for teenagers on the continent for long enough and Ireland let you ride bigger bikes after taking some training but I don't know if that's changed now.
In the past there was 250cc bikes on a L plates and that would be a better start for a licensing petition.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

-.
Super Spammer



Joined: 29 Sep 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:33 - 24 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jmoan wrote:
In the past there was 250cc bikes on a L plates and that would be a better start for a licensing petition.

Makes sense with 125 2-strokes all but dead. I'd have learners riding up to 250cc with a power output (20 something bhp), a restricted license of 47bhp if you take your test on a 250 which auto-upgrades to a full unrestricted licence after two years, and direct access for anyone 21 or over as before.

I don't care about mopeds Smile
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Sister Sledge
World Chat Champion



Joined: 17 Aug 2018
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:02 - 24 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a work around the rules back when I was in my teens - was it a Sidewinder side car? It allowed normal riding and a route around things.

If motorcycle laws are different in other parts of Europe I'd be surprised. It's all harmony and equality innit?

(petition is like weeing into the wind)
____________________
CCM 404 DS
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

thx1138
World Chat Champion



Joined: 06 Oct 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:26 - 24 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sister Sledge wrote:
There was a work around the rules back when I was in my teens - was it a Sidewinder side car? It allowed normal riding and a route around things.

If motorcycle laws are different in other parts of Europe I'd be surprised. It's all harmony and equality innit?

(petition is like weeing into the wind)


ah, the sidewinder, yes I knew a few people that bought bigger bikes and put them on, they all crashed and got injured

though this proves nothing, come to think of it, we all crashed and got injured Embarassed
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Confusion
Nitrous Nuisance



Joined: 02 May 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:12 - 25 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sister Sledge wrote:

If motorcycle laws are different in other parts of Europe I'd be surprised. It's all harmony and equality innit?


All based on the same EU directives, but there are differences in
the way they are interpreted and implemented.

In Ireland we applied the rule that says bikes for the category A
test must produce 50kW or more back in 2014.

You can get category A1 from age 16 and A2 from 18.
Category A from 24 (20 via progressive access).

There are also differences in the process for getting a licence.
The process is:

Theory test. (40 multiple choice questions)

Apply for learner permit (this usually requires an eye test)

Mandatory training. This must be done on a bike suitable
for your category of learner permit. 18 hours for category A.
I did mine on a Bandit 650.

Once you have completed training, you can ride on the
road subject to the usual learner rules. (no motorway, no pillion etc).
You are required to wear an L-tabard until you get the full licence.
I rarely see L-tabards on the road, so I suspect that many L
riders are not complying with this rule.

You are not allowed to take the test for the full licence until
you have held your learner permit for at least six months.

I prefer the Irish system to the UK version. No faffing about
with 125s to get an A2 or A licence.
____________________
Bandit 650SA, ZZ-R1100
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

MCN
World Chat Champion



Joined: 22 Jul 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:20 - 25 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: 16-Year-olds riding 125cc Mopeds/Scooters? Reply with quote

Conor_ wrote:
Hi,
My name is Conor, I believe 16-year-olds should be allowed to ride 125cc Scooters even if they are restricted to around 50mph, the reason for this is it would reduce tailgaters and build up of traffic behind restricted 50cc scooters on the busier roads, it would also make it safer and reduce tailgaters behind the riders and stop the potential chance of an accident,

I have made a petition on the government website for this, if you agree with my point, please go ahead and sign it, it will only take a moment of your time, if you do not agree, I will not take any offense if anyone gives their view or explains why this would not work

Link:https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/238120/sponsors/new?token=iJ3KowMSUys0d8zpFhT


You are one of Rogerborg thermal socks and I claim my £5
____________________
Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

stevo as b4
World Chat Champion



Joined: 17 Jul 2003
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:44 - 26 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only difference in Europe (well mostly Italy) is that while 14yr olds can all ride a 50cc moped until age 16 then they are allowed to ride an 11kw 125.

But from what little I know about 14yr old Italians, they virtually all have bikes with something called a TPR86 conversion which means 20-22bhp at 13500rpm. Laughing

So you can guess how learner legal their 125's are going to be 2years later. Wink
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Chuffin Nora
World Chat Champion



Joined: 02 Sep 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:57 - 28 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
The only difference in Europe (well mostly Italy) is that while 14yr olds can all ride a 50cc moped until age 16 then they are allowed to ride an 11kw 125.

Good ol' Brexit!
Ensuring that our kids get to experience an extra year of life Thumbs Up ,
whereas the poor sods across the channel have to put up with remaining 14 years old until they're sixteen. Crying or Very sad
____________________
There's a fine line between integrity
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

linuxyeti
World Chat Champion



Joined: 06 Oct 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:17 - 28 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chuffin Nora wrote:
stevo as b4 wrote:
The only difference in Europe (well mostly Italy) is that while 14yr olds can all ride a 50cc moped until age 16 then they are allowed to ride an 11kw 125.

Good ol' Brexit!
Ensuring that our kids get to experience an extra year of life Thumbs Up ,
whereas the poor sods across the channel have to put up with remaining 14 years old until they're sixteen. Crying or Very sad


I'm sure that's lost in translation somewhere, but, what on earth are you on about, and what does this have to do with Brexit?
____________________
Current rides :- Hyosung ST7, Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor, F.B Mondial HPS 125
Previously owned bikes :- Chituma CTM-125, Jinlun JL250-5, Honda VTX1300, Suzuki GS500, Lifan LF400, Lexmoto Arrow 125, Yamaha XJ600 Diversion,Triumph America, Skyteam ST-125 V-Raptor, Royal Enfield 350 Bullet, Mash 400 Roadstar & Honley RX3 Venturer (Zhongshen RX3),CFMoto CF650TR,
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Andy_Pagin
World Chat Champion



Joined: 08 Nov 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:17 - 10 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
However, should 16 year old boys be trusted with a vehicle that can to go over 30mph? That is the question.

Having been a 16 year old boy with a moped myself once. I think the answer is a firm "No.".
Having been a sixteen year old boy as well, I'm just glad my dad wouldn't let me near any kind of powered two wheeler, I probably wouldn't have made to seventeen.
____________________
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa, hey-hey,
the men in white coats are coming to take me away.
Yamaha Vity -> YBR125 -> FZS600 Fazer -> FZ1-S Fazer
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Ste
Not Work Safe



Joined: 01 Sep 2002
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:22 - 10 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/238120/gathering-support

This petition is gathering support
Conor Bennett’s petition needs 5 supporters before we will check that it meets the petition standards and publish it.

Please try again in a few days.

Laughing Laughing Laughing
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Andy_Pagin
World Chat Champion



Joined: 08 Nov 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:31 - 10 Feb 2019    Post subject: Re: 16-Year-olds riding 125cc Mopeds/Scooters? Reply with quote

Conor_ wrote:
the reason for this is it would reduce tailgaters and build up of traffic behind restricted 50cc scooters on the busier roads, it would also make it safer and reduce tailgaters behind the riders and stop the potential chance of an accident
Believe me engine capacity makes no difference to tailgaters, what does make some difference is passing your tests and losing the L plates, in my experience tailgaters are more aggressive when they spot an L
____________________
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa, hey-hey,
the men in white coats are coming to take me away.
Yamaha Vity -> YBR125 -> FZS600 Fazer -> FZ1-S Fazer
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

pepperami
World Chat Champion



Joined: 17 Jan 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:46 - 10 Feb 2019    Post subject: Re: 16-Year-olds riding 125cc Mopeds/Scooters? Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
tailgaters are more aggressive when they spot an L plate


True as a true thing Crying or Very sad
____________________
I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

-.
Super Spammer



Joined: 29 Sep 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:59 - 10 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only time I remember being tailgated on my 125 was going up a big hill where my bike would only do 30 even though it was a 30 zone. Yes the car tailgating/flashing their lights was an Audi...
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Display posts from previous:   

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> Biking News & Rumours All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: enterprise (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.15 Sec - Server Load: 1.7 - MySQL Queries: 16 - CDN Objects: 56 - Page Size: 136.7 Kb