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bushido
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 27 Feb 2019    Post subject: Smoke!!! Reply with quote

Battery on the bike was almost dead after a winter spent in the garage. I know it's not a great idea however I went to jump the bike from the car to take it a wee run hopefully giving the battery a charge.

When I plugged it in and went to switch it on the bike battery area immediately started to smoke (lots of it). I've since removed the battery, both battery and jump leads were very hot!

Anyway the question is, have a fried anything electrical in the bike?
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Ste
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 27 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

That isn't smoke. It's steam. Steam from the steamed clams we're having.

Mmmm.

Steamed Clams!
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 27 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the Amperage coming from the Car battery was too big for the bikes amperage
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 27 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most likely you managed to connect a short circuit. The bike would only pull the amps it needs.

What did you connect to where?
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 27 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you did same as my Dad when dementia was kicking in Very Happy
Connected red to black and black to red.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 27 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was the car running when you jumped it?
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PostPosted: 05:34 - 28 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
That isn't smoke. It's steam. Steam from the steamed clams we're having.

Mmmm.

Steamed Clams!


When I saw title, I thought it was an invite.
But I do like Steamed Clams... Mmmmm
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PostPosted: 06:45 - 28 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen cars where the terminal colours are seemingly backwards, a friend didn't double check the symbols on his battery and wired his Corsa B incorretly to my clio because for some reason the - was red and vica versa.

In my experience though it's usually you've shorted out the leads on something inadvertently, cars are usually pretty good, but it's not unusual to find the tank or frame run near the bike battery terminals, big jump lead clips can easily lean on metal by accident and that would cause smoking.

Also, you can't push amps into a system, the system draws amps from the battery/source, so that wouldn't be an issue. You could provide too many volts, say by wiring up to a lorry, which would do some odd stuff (like potentially run the starter motor at double speed), but you won't have done that.

I doubt you've damaged anything anyway, I've had smoke a couple of times with no long term damage, as long as you stopped pretty sharp.
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 28 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the informative posts, new battery ordered.

Cheers
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 28 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always put positive to positive and donor battery negative to bike foot peg. Done that for years.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 28 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 CPT wrote:
We get this a lot in the campervan world where people let their leisure batteries run flat, then start the vehicle and when the voltage sensitive relay between the batteries connects the two, it blows one of the strip fuses on the lead between the two batteries. These are 50A on my setup!


Or it could be caused by a dead battery having a very resistance.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 01 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 CPT wrote:


If there was high resistance that would restrict current flow. That's the main reason it's safer to jump start with the negative lead connected to the flat vehicle chassis instead of straight to the battery terminal.

It restricts current flow. Thumbs Up


It doesn't really, not with the chassis being bolted directly to the battery via the earth lead. The main reason is you connect the lives first then the negative cable to the doner vehicle battery and the other end to the recipient vehicles chassis so you don't cause a spark next to the gassing off battery.

AIUI battery resistance increases during and in a discharged state so the battery pulls a higher current when discharged which is what causes your strip fuses to blow. This is also why bulbs tended to blow on kick start bikes while running with a dead battery.
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