Brexit: What do you think will happen?

[Ste]

[Im-a-Ridah]

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This is the most honest review of the whole situation I've heard yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ilSk9BqJk

"This whole shambles is what happens when those in charge don't believe in what they are supposedly trying to do."

Such sensible truth in this summary.
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[bhinso]

You all need to get things in perspective.

The top news item on Radio 1's Newsbeat last night was...


Period Poverty!

[Polarbear]

And European Council president Donald Tusk indicated that the EU may be ready to offer a lengthy extension to negotiations if the UK wants to “rethink its Brexit strategy and build consensus around it”.

https://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/commons-certain-to-vote-to-delay-brexit-says-chancellor-11364345087699

That's Brexit fcuked then. Val will be pissing himself.

Just drag it on and on until we all forget about it or die of old age.
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[bhinso]

But how can you claim this is important, when schoolgirls are being forced to spend £12 a month on tampons????

For Shame

[Polarbear]

[bhinso]

'The potential is unlimited!' Donald Trump wades into the middle of the Brexit crisis with an early-morning tweet talking up a 'large scale trade deal' with Britain after we leave the EU



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6808625/Donald-Trump-wades-Brexit-crisis-early-morning-TRADE-DEAL-tweet.html

Of course it's nothing compared to the tragedy that is period poverty

[Riejufixing]

So we've heard all the "Treason May", "NO DEAL!!!!!" Brexit on the 29th March!" stuff from the woodentops in government, parliament and elsewhere.

Now, due to their ridiculous, stupid and shortsighted efforts, instead of getting out of the EU on the 29th, we've the Brexit delay debate today, and the four amendments to be debated and voted on.


Government's motion:

That this house:

(1) notes the resolutions of the house of 12 and 13 March, and accordingly agrees that the government will seek to agree with the European Union an extension of the period specified in article 50(3);

(2) agrees that, if the house has passed a resolution approving the negotiated withdrawal agreement and the framework for the future relationship for the purposes of section 13(1) (b) of the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018 by 20 March 2019, then the government will seek to agree with the European Union a one-off extension of the period specified in article 50(3) for a period ending on 30 June 2019 for the purpose of passing the necessary EU exit legislation; and

(3) notes that, if the house has not passed a resolution approving the negotiated withdrawal agreement and the framework for the future relationship for the purposes of section 13(1)(b) of the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018 by 20 March 2019, then it is highly likely that the European council at its meeting the following day would require a clear purpose for any extension, not least to determine its length, and that any extension beyond 30 June 2019 would require the United Kingdom to hold European Parliament elections in May 2019.


Amendments to be debated:


Amendment (h)

Dr Sarah Wollaston
Dr Philippa Whitford
Joanna Cherry
Tom Brake
Neil Coyle

Line 1, leave out from “House” to end and add “instructs the Prime Minister to request an extension to the Article 50 period at the European Council in March 2019 sufficient for the purposes of legislating for and conducting a public vote in which the people of the United Kingdom may give their consent for either leaving the European Union on terms to be determined by Parliament or retaining the United Kingdom’s membership of the European Union.”.

(Second in/out referendum time, might not pass)


Amendment (i)

Hilary Benn
Sir Oliver Letwin
Yvette Cooper
Mr Dominic Grieve
Norman Lamb
Stewart Hosie

Line 4, leave out from “Article 50 (3)” to end and add:
“to enable the House of Commons to find a way forward that can command majority support;
2. orders accordingly that on Wednesday 20 March –
(a) Standing Order No. 14(1) (which provides that government business shall have precedence at every sitting save as provided in that order) shall not apply;
(b) precedence shall be given to the motion specified in paragraph 3;
(c) the Speaker shall interrupt proceedings on any business before the motion specified in paragraph 3 at 1.30 pm and call a Member to move that motion;
(d) debate on that motion may continue until 7.00 pm at which time the Speaker shall put the questions necessary to dispose of proceedings on that motion including the questions on amendments selected by the Speaker which may then be moved;
(e) any proceedings interrupted or superseded by this order may be resumed or (as the case may be) entered upon and proceeded with after the moment of interruption; and
3. the motion specified in this paragraph is a motion in the name of at least 25 Members, including at least five Members elected to the House as members of at least five different parties, relating to the Business of the House on a future day or days in connection with matters relating to the United Kingdom’s withdrawal from the European Union.

As an amendment to Hilary Benn’s amendment (i)

Lucy Powell
Seema Malhotra
Robert Halfon

In line 2, at beginning insert “for a period ending on 30 June 2019”.

(above amendment ana amendment to amendment finding out what parliament would go for, will probably pass)


Amendment (e)

Jeremy Corbyn
Keir Starmer
Emily Thornberry
John McDonnell
Valerie Vaz
Mr Nicholas Brown

Leave out paragraphs (2) and (3) and add: “(2) notes that this House has decisively rejected the Withdrawal Agreement and Framework for the Future Relationship laid before the House and the proposition that the UK should leave the European Union without a Withdrawal Agreement and a Framework for the Future Relationship; and (3) therefore instructs the Prime Minister to seek an extension to Article 50 in order to avoid exiting the EU on 29 March without a ratified Withdrawal Agreement and a Framework for the Future Relationship; and to provide parliamentary time for this House to find a majority for a different approach.”.

(Try to find a differend approach, e.g. full permanent customs union)



Amendment (j)

Chris Bryant
Tom Brake
Liz Saville Robert
Dr Philippa Whitfor
Alison McGovern
Stephen Doughty

At end, add “ (4) notes that Erksine May states that a motion or an amendment which is the same, in substance, as a question which has been decided in the affirmative or negative during the current session may not be brought forward again during that session; and therefore orders the Government not to move a further motion asking the House to approve the Withdrawal Agreement and framework for the future partnership that the house declined to approve on 15 January 2019 and 12 March 2019.”.

(try to prevent the only thing which could get us out of the EU from returning)


Now watch all the so-called "Brexiteers", in government, parliament and elsewhere, running around in ever-decreasing circles saying how it's not their fault (it is their fault), they could not have done anything (they very much could have), and generally whining and crying.

[Tracey Suntan-King]

I'm not the one going off topic here, but i cant let the comments on period poverty go without commenting.

I'm also not suggesting that PP is a major issue on the current political climate.

However in the lives of many women, it is a real issue. No man can imagine the discomfort and rising terror felt by a female who's used her last tampon or pad and knows she doesnt have any more.

Whether at work or at school, she's tried to make each one last as long as possible but she knows that any minute she's going to leak, a creeping stain that everyone will see will soon be colouring her clothes. Having to slink to the bathroom to clean herself up as best she can before stuffing her underwear with toilet paper for the journey home. Great, yes? Doesn't matter eh?

Not being able to afford these necessities because of poverty is dehumanizing and heaps indignities on women. It really pisses me off to hear blokes like you lot deriding a genuine attempt to improve things.

Gits.

Anyway back to Brexit. What a shitstorm. The sooner article 50 is revoked the better. The will of the people? People are idiots........
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[Sister Sledge]

With regards lost traditional Labour voters, another thing that's happening around here is lots of new house building. Those buying the houses are not local - many are from close to London. I expect that to water down any Labour votes and add in factors such as old folk dying then it's anyones guess!
I do agree though - Blyth will become a fantastic battle ground of inept door knockers. I really hope they knock on mine..
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Bercrow has ruled out the amendment with would deny a second referendum even though it was backed by more MP’s than the rest of tonight’s amendments put together.

The whole of parliament is bent and ran by a bent ref and a bent manager, who refuse to follow the will of the people.

I can see bug changes to Parliament soon. I won’t forget this blatant ignoring of the very people they are elected to serve. Time to drain the swamp and start from fresh.
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[bhinso]

Thing is, if you don't vote Labour or Tory, then who?

Flounce party? They're as bad as the rest!

The problem is, with the first past the post system it'll all be Labour and Conservative still anyway.
UKip is splitting itself apart and unable to get seats.

If there was a common sense party, I'd vote for them

[bhinso]

Wollaston amendment.

Request Article 50 extension in order to hold second referendum

Yes 85
No 334

lolz. I bet Val's pissed off.

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[Johnnythefox]

re period poverty, I blame austerity, how anyone can afford drugs, fags AND tampons is beyond me...

[Ste]

We're still leave the EU at the end of the month unless the EU Withdrawal Act gets changed.

[Im-a-Ridah]

[Im-a-Ridah]

[Im-a-Ridah]

[Ste]

UK MPs have voted by 412 to 202 for Prime Minister Theresa May to ask the EU for a delay to Brexit.

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And the extension will only be to 30th June if they approve her polished turd of a Remain deal.

It’s blatant disregard for the democratic will of the people and these current morons will be out of a job come the next election.

This is exactly what most of us said would happen from the start. Kicking the can further down the road until the establishment finds a way of wriggling out of what they offered and promised to implement.

Pitchforks at the ready.
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