Backup vehicle ideas?

[Easy-X]

Until I pass my test I can't really get into the "motorbike acquisition syndrome" thing so at the moment my backup is the 30mph ebike.

Fun as it is there are the disadvantages that a) it's illegal and b) range is limited to 30 to 40 miles.

I was weighing up whether to replace it with a road legal 50cc bike. (BTW I detest scooters since I had one as a kid.) Probably 2-stroke...

Aprilia, Rieju or Derbi are the obvious choices. Anything else I should look at?

Also, worth sticking with something older and "traditional" or are these new EURO4 2-strokes okay?
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[Teflon-Mike]

What do you need 'back-up' for?
You can have as many 'toys' as you have to in the toy-box, and the significant other will tolerate, really....
Personally, with a mini-fleet outside, do as I say, not as I do! But... you can only ride ONE bike at a time... spend your time and attension making that one A-OK, and ride it as much as you want... the only 'back-up' you should need is the AA card in your wallet.
But... asside from the road bike there's usually a project bike on the stops, being renovated... and that may get a bit of use after the Moment Of Truth, elation... and there's the Cota, which is pure fun competition tool, that oft doubles as 'project' bike when I bend it.... which is quite often!
125 Super-Dreams have been the staple of the project bikes over recent decade, but interspersed with err-nibbs bludi guzzi and my Yamie Enduro, or or or..... to keep spanners busy.
But.. I can still only ride one at a time... so the trials bike for going getting dirty, the road-bike for heading off on excursions.... which does sort of beg the two, cos the Cota would be hopless on the road, the Seven-Fifty hopeless on the dirt.
Otherwise? AA card in wallet; no 'back-up' really required.
As said, what do you need back-up for? There's no real substitute for propper maintenence, and IME a second bike that does the same job as the main bike, makes as many problems as it solves... if you need the thing to get to work, when the main bike dont go, you grab the 'back-up' and 'cos you are getting to work, the main bike dont get fixed, and you keep using the back-up till that breaks, and you have the twice the problems to contend with.. and dilemah which to tackle first.....
So.... get the Gadget-Aquesition-Syndrome, in check. You were working on the full licence at last check-in.... that aught be the top priority, and when that done, a) you probably wont want a learner legal what so ever, let alone two or more of them! and that licence pass-port to all biking, you can have whatever and however many bikes you like really... BUT you can still only ride one at a time.... a back-up isn't substitute for proper maintenance, it's actually twice the maintenance, so think long and hard what you want ANY bike for.
If mad enough, there may be good argument for three... say a comper or track bike for pure fun, a road-bike for every-day and 'something' for high-days and holidays,. like a tourer or scratcher or classic.. but you may be lucky and get some duality in there, with an every-day classic comper, or something... but your call.
Thing is to parse out the reasons for each different bike, and would each get the attension they deserve, or you really want to give it?
Proper maintenence and an AA card, should be all the 'back-up' you need... reasons for more bikes? There's no real need for any! Have as many as you want or can get away with! You dont need any other reason for them... but... you can still only ride one at a time!
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[Easy-X]

Tef, it's always a delight to read your comments but, and with the greatest respect, the original question was not about the perverse nature of my psyche!

I got a lot of enjoyment over this past weekend doing the maintenance on the 125 and had a very satisfying commute on it yesterday.

Today I went to work on the ebike. Why? Because I can. And pretty much the only thing these two vehicles have in common is the number of wheels! Variety is the spice of life and all that...

It's almost like asking why you need a pair of shorts if you have perfectly good trousers in the wardrobe
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[Evil Hans]

My daughter refused to have a scooter ... we bought one of these (second hand for about half retail):

https://www.lexmoto.co.uk/TD50Q-E4.php

It's been brilliant, and met her requirement of "looking like a proper motorbike"
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[leolion]

google super soco, im very intrested.

[Ste]

[G]

Have you got age issues for passing the test?

If not; do that first!

[Easy-X]

The lexmoto looks like a nice, straightforward conventional bike. Shame it's hampered by a 4-stroke, very little tinkering to be done there.

Probably anything that's 2-stroke and not a scooter just for the contrast against the 125.
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[johnsmith222]

I'd probably just pass your test, or if you want to change bike, sell your current bike and replace it.

[Teflon-Mike]

[pepperami]

[leolion]

SUPER SOCO

[stevo as b4]

Don't Bullshit us all here pal.

You don't want a reliable modern four stroke fuel sipping vehicle, because it doesn't need any tinkering saywhat?

Your not buying a back up bike to strip it all down and mess with, it's only a tool like a hammer or saw to do a job. Your post comes across though as I want another old weird peculiar vehicle that I can mess with, but also semi justify that it's a valuable useful mode of transport, and even worse you want us to help you justify and validate your possible purchase to make you feel better or right about why you bought it.

Can't pull that one over adults, it's a great idea to think you can, but very very nieve as we've seen it all before, you know that and I do.

Buy some more old broken, weird or quirky shit if you want to, and conversely buy a reliable vehicle if that's what you want/need.

No need for trying to Bullshit people tho as you can't make that stick sorry. Oh and your sig comes across as you like your weird and wacky pedal cycles, home built illegal E-bikes and scooters, so what's wrong with those as your back up transport?

I'd love an E-bike that did 30mph and 30mile range on electric power alone, and you can also pedal them too, so you can go even further. Sounds practical and cheap and like a problem solved already to me.

[linuxyeti]

[Teflon-Mike]

[Easy-X]

Gotta love this forum!

Talk about quitting electric and going full petrol and everyone gets all bent out of shape

I threw out some names I'd heard of to zero comment... how about I make things much worse: I quite like the look of the Mash 50
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[Sister Sledge]

Why not stay with electric but make it AWD? That way you're still tinkering on and can make something with extra torque or whatever.

You know fine well the petrol engined route should be test first - it really does open up a whole new world. You'd be surprised how much cheaper big bikes are compared to 125s.
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[pepperami]

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[Shaft]

I remember 50cc bikes, restricted, unrestricted and tuned, mainly because I've ridden all of those recently, not in my 30 odd year old past.

Appalling POS one and all - none of them have enough performance to get you out of trouble and none of them have the performance that their owners claim they have.

Anything road legal 50 will most likely accelerate slower than a souped up ebike and have a lower max speed, so that's a cul-de-sac of epic proportions.

A decent pair of walking shoes is a better bet than a 50.
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[Easy-X]

[stevo as b4]

Very much like another delusional Tara.

Im out personally, but will we ever see the OP turn and say: "Yes folks I want another vehicle to play with and was looking for support, justification, and encouragement or enthusiasm to buy a two stroke geared 50 because want"?

I don't think we ever will, and I think OP still thinks their requirements are for a useful realistic and valid option.

It'd be like me saying I have to get to work and back every day on nm time, and I need a daily driver car urgently that'll do this job, but I only want it to be a 30year old hatchback and nothing else is satisfactory.

[Easy-X]

I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that BCF is probably the wrong place to talk about actual bikes
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[Ste]

Have you got age issues stopping you getting a full license?

If you want a 50cc two stroke, keep an eye on eBay, local free ads and the like for one locally that's not completely fucked.

Sounds like you want a toy to tinker with rather than a backup bike and there's nothing wrong with that but you're going to get completely different advice about choosing a backup bike as you would get for choosing a two stroke toy.

So save your excuses for why your need the bike for your wife / significant other of unspecified gender or sexual orientation / your parents / your nan. Those are the people you might need to try and convince that you bought for the bike completely sensible practical reasons.

PS. for bonus points you could give us an idea of what your budget is.

[Ste]