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MarJay
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 29 Jul 2019    Post subject: GSX-S1000F Reply with quote

As above, anyone got one? I've been toying with a Z1000SX as a replacement for my VFR, but having just spent a week away with the VFR, the weight was getting to me. The Kwak is not that much lighter it seems (around 5kg) so I was looking for something similar but with less weight.

My real fly in the ointment, though, is the tank range for my commute. I would really like a 200 mile tank range. I get more than that from my VFR, and MCN quotes it as having a 145 mile range, so I think there is hope for my frugal riding on the commute, but I'd like to hear from a real GSX-S1000F owner to ask about real world MPG. It seems some on the GSX-S forum get that kind of mileage, so I'm thinking I may be able to as well, but I just need a bit of reassurance. A 150 mile tank range would be really annoying on my 100 mile a day commute.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 29 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems to be listed as 17 litres, similar engine to mine albeit downtuned I guess. I've got 165 miles on mine with the light starting to flash about 5 miles prior when riding to the rules of the road (not going over 70, no harsh acceleration and conservative gear changes.)

I'd probably expect closer to 160, my last fill up was 13 litres and I was on 139 miles, this was average riding, again nothing north of 80 but not hanging about below that.

100 mile a day is long though Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 29 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might not be such a good commuter, but I'd call myself a twat if I chose a GSX1000F over say a KTM 790. Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 29 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
Might not be such a good commuter, but I'd call myself a twat if I chose a GSX1000F over say a KTM 790. Laughing


Neutral Question Eh?

I have to commute 100 miles a day, 90% motorway in all weathers and I already have a Street Triple R which I'm keeping, and I reckon is probably a better fun bike than the 790 Duke. Sorry Stevo but that suggestion makes absolutely no sense at all.

This is what it sounded like to me: "Might not be such a good load lugger, but I'd much rather have a Lotus Elise than an Audi S4 Estate."

The bare requirements are:

Arrow full fairing
Arrow comfort (more upright than a VFR800)
Arrow a bit of poke (more than a VFR800)
Arrow Can be used to go touring
Arrow Lighter than a VFR800
Arrow ULEZ compliant.

ideally
Arrow 200 mile tank range.

Paddy, good call but I wonder if the gearing might be different on the GSX-S? MCN says 155 mile tank range, but they say my 21 litre tank VFR has a range of 145 miles. Loads of people on the GSX-S forum say about 160 miles thrashing, and a couple of people have said just about 200 on motorways...
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 29 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stevo is actually pretty much ticking all the boxes with a 790 duke. Apart from full fairing. There's very little wind buffeting compared to almost all nakeds out there. However, the z1000sx would be my choice out of the other 2, as the Suzuki can't carry luggage.
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 29 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be slightly optimistic hoping for north of 53mpg out of one.

Why do you need more poke than the vfr?
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 29 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
Could be slightly optimistic hoping for north of 53mpg out of one.

Why do you need more poke than the vfr?


I don't really *need* it but I want something to justify spending £££ on a bike I don't need because of the ULEZ.

I'd go for a new VFR, but apparently they are really snatchy and the riding position is just as uncomfortable as my current VFR, so I'd feel like I'm just throwing £50 notes down the drain.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 29 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kentol750 wrote:
Stevo is actually pretty much ticking all the boxes with a 790 duke. Apart from full fairing. There's very little wind buffeting compared to almost all nakeds out there. However, the z1000sx would be my choice out of the other 2, as the Suzuki can't carry luggage.


I REALLY don't see how. KTM... not known for electronical reliability. 14 litre fuel tank. No full fairing. Not exactly comfortable. Superduke GT, that might make sense, but I'm not a massive KTM fan, and they are generally too tall for me.

790 Duke... A fun backroad bike which I have the Street Triple for, but not for touring or commuting 50 miles each way.

The Z1000SX does come with luggage, but I'd rather have a top box than panniers (due to filtering) and Kawasaki don't allow you to have panniers and top box installed on the bike. So I might as well buy a GSXS1000F and a Givi monokey rack.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 29 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a bit pants of Kawasaki. KTM returns over 60mpg and isn't uncomfortable for a naked (If you can do an hour on a striple, why not top box that?) If you need 200 mile tank, would a tall tourer like a crossrunner work better?
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 29 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kentol750 wrote:
That's a bit pants of Kawasaki. KTM returns over 60mpg and isn't uncomfortable for a naked (If you can do an hour on a striple, why not top box that?) If you need 200 mile tank, would a tall tourer like a crossrunner work better?


No tall bikes so S1000XR is out, Tracers are out, Versys is out, Vstrom is out. and I *can* do an hour on a Striple, I just can't do an hour on a Striple in 0-5 degree C temperatures! If they did a faired Striple, I'd consider it...

C'mon people, have a think. Imagine what you would like from a 50 mile commute in all weathers! Wink
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 29 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seeing as I have a knack here for sensible suggestions, I know of a bloke that commutes to building sites (20-40miles each way approx) on a ZZR1400. Mostly on bumpy A&B roads too.

Theres also a guy that works on a near by industrial estate that during the warmer months rides his H2R alien thingy to work rain or shine.

I don't get why you want more poke than the VFR, especially if your setting other limitations such as weight, seat height and excellent mpg. To my mind a bike that has built in luggage like the kawasaki Z1000SX is better than buying a bike that you've got to add aftermarket luggage and carriers to afterwards.

If you buy a current ULEZ bike how many years will it stay compliment for before you need to buy another new bike? That would be a factor for me to consider before selling out thousands on another bike.
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 29 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:

If you buy a current ULEZ bike how many years will it stay compliment for before you need to buy another new bike? That would be a factor for me to consider before selling out thousands on another bike.


When that happens... I might not even be working in London, electric bikes might be practical, we all might be living on the streets or in caves again anyway.

The Z1000SX does seem like the logical choice, but I just think the extra get up and go of the GSXS1000F would make the outlay worth it.

If I were being truly sensible I'd buy a BMW F800GT... (which I may yet do).
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PostPosted: 05:57 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a massive fan of the Z series from Kawasaki. I'm currently on my second one after getting knocked off my first one and every day of the week I would recommend them.

As a touring bike the SX would be a good choice but for London riding I probably would not want to be on one. One of our local examiners has the SX as a DVSA bike and he hates it. He said it is not good around town and the fuel consumption around town is appalling.

I guess the bike will be a real swings and roundabouts, great on the motorway and open road but not so good around London in that kind of traffic.
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PostPosted: 07:00 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
I'm a massive fan of the Z series from Kawasaki. I'm currently on my second one after getting knocked off my first one and every day of the week I would recommend them.

As a touring bike the SX would be a good choice but for London riding I probably would not want to be on one. One of our local examiners has the SX as a DVSA bike and he hates it. He said it is not good around town and the fuel consumption around town is appalling.

I guess the bike will be a real swings and roundabouts, great on the motorway and open road but not so good around London in that kind of traffic.


Well, I don't have to ride that far in London, the worst I have to do is to ride from Chiswick to White City. The VFR is a bit of a bus to flick around a badly positioned bus on the Chiswick high road hence why I want something a tad lighter if I can get it. Which is why, apart from the tank range, the Suzuki seems like a better bet. But if I had to on the Z1000SX, I could do it.
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you thought of a lower CC bike? 500 or 300?
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:
Have you thought of a lower CC bike? 500 or 300?


300? With 40 miles of motorway? Laughing

The street triple screams like crazy doing that. I need something that just ticks over at 70-80mph to be honest.
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
The Z1000SX does come with luggage, but I'd rather have a top box than panniers (due to filtering) and Kawasaki don't allow you to have panniers and top box installed on the bike. So I might as well buy a GSXS1000F and a Givi monokey rack.

I think it can be done if you fit a Ventura rack and top box. (sauce)

https://www.ventura-bike.co.uk/separate-components/kawasaki/top-box-rack-kawasaki/
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
MarJay wrote:
The Z1000SX does come with luggage, but I'd rather have a top box than panniers (due to filtering) and Kawasaki don't allow you to have panniers and top box installed on the bike. So I might as well buy a GSXS1000F and a Givi monokey rack.

I think it can be done if you fit a Ventura rack and top box. (sauce)

https://www.ventura-bike.co.uk/separate-components/kawasaki/top-box-rack-kawasaki/


Dem people on dat forum be wrong sir.

The reason is not that it won't fit, it's that the Kwak's subframe is not homologated or tested for both panniers, top box and also a pillion. Tis actually dangerous to fit both panniers and a top box but I assume you'd get away with it unless you have a large pillion.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

So a couple of people on the GSXS forum have got 200-210 miles from a tank... apparently...
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, I didn't realise you wanted to be able to carry a pillion as well. I'm sure it would be fine but I also wouldn't want to test it. Laughing

Back to the drawing board.
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Ah, I didn't realise you wanted to be able to carry a pillion as well. I'm sure it would be fine but I also wouldn't want to test it. Laughing

Back to the drawing board.


I don't, but I'd be worried about overloading the subframe with just luggage anyway....
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't worry about it.

Kawasaki are a right fanny in that regard. They say the same about the Versys, and I had both a top box and panniers on that, loaded up heavily AND a pillion on it all over the Alps a few years ago. It was fine, and it was properly overloaded.
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
Wouldn't worry about it.

Kawasaki are a right fanny in that regard. They say the same about the Versys, and I had both a top box and panniers on that, loaded up heavily AND a pillion on it all over the Alps a few years ago. It was fine, and it was properly overloaded.


Yeah, I figured that they were being overly careful but I don't really need panniers. A top box would be ideal.
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
garth wrote:
Wouldn't worry about it.

Kawasaki are a right fanny in that regard. They say the same about the Versys, and I had both a top box and panniers on that, loaded up heavily AND a pillion on it all over the Alps a few years ago. It was fine, and it was properly overloaded.


Yeah, I figured that they were being overly careful but I don't really need panniers. A top box would be ideal.


So sell the Panniers ( or box them up and don't use them ) and fit a top box. The Pannier mounts are hidden into the grab rails anyway so it's not like you have to look at scaffolding if they aren't fitted.
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 31 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

UncleBFester wrote:

So sell the Panniers ( or box them up and don't use them ) and fit a top box. The Pannier mounts are hidden into the grab rails anyway so it's not like you have to look at scaffolding if they aren't fitted.


Helpful suggestion but irrelevant. If I buy a Z1000SX with panniers, I'll keep the panniers in case I go touring. If I buy one without panniers then I'm not going to seek them out. I'm not bothered that the GSXS doesn't have panniers for example.
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