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Drugs only have one purpose and that is to detach you from reality, sanity and any sense of reason. |
Rubbish. An over-generalisation. In fact, so much lack of definition as to be a totally meaningless statement. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Hang on, it turns out the other shooter was a self-proclaimed leftist...
But but but If the real leftists had had their way, their fellow leftist would never have had a gun in the first place! |
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and the peoples front of judea or was it the Judean front of the people. |
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So by that table 1 in 20 people in the UK has a gun. If the average household contains 4 people, that means one household in 5 is tooled up. Assuming this is based upon the number of firearms licenses issued and doesn't include legal airguns or illegal weapons, that is a scary figure... Other than farmers, gamekeepers and members of shooting clubs, who are these people? ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Diggs wrote: | So by that table 1 in 20 people in the UK has a gun. If the average household contains 4 people, that means one household in 5 is tooled up. Assuming this is based upon the number of firearms licenses issued and doesn't include legal airguns or illegal weapons, that is a scary figure... Other than farmers, gamekeepers and members of shooting clubs, who are these people? |
Why's it a "scary figure"?
Here's another chart for you; again, "Wikipediia", but it looks reasonable:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
Here's the line for the UK:
Country Year Total Homicide Suicide Unintentional Undetermined Guns per 100 inhabitants Sources and notes
United Kingdom 2011 0.23 0.06 0.15 0.00 0.02 2.8[78] Guns in the United Kingdom[79]
Source: https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-kingdom
EDIT: You asked: "Other than farmers, gamekeepers and members of shooting clubs, who are these people?"
There's a basic problem in your "one household in 5 is tooled up" calculatoin (rather an unfortunate phrase since it has implications). The thing is that ownership is not uniform; a farmer, for instance, may posess at least one rifle, and at least one shot gun. He may have family or workers owning other guns. A collector will have several guns. A club member hay have one or several guns.
EDIT: Here's another good read: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/812296/statistics-firearm-shotgun-certificates-england-wales-2018-2019-hosb0919.pdf |
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Fair comment. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Left wing thinking
Problem: People die in mass shootings
Solution: Ban guns
Problem: People die of drug overdoses
Solution: Legalise drugs
It also just so happens that left wing people like drugs and dont like guns |
Err. No. You're comparing apples and pears.
People aren't being killed in mass shootings by illegally obtained guns of indeterminate quality meaning they don't know how much they're shooting someone.
Also people aren't stealing, doing without food and becoming exploited by criminal gangs and the sex industry in order to get their next illegal gun. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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Polarbear wrote: | Ribenapigeon wrote: | In defence of gun ownership its worth pointing out plenty of countries have liberal fire arms laws. They dont have the problem with mass shootings though. Its definitely a problem to do with 'murican society. Personally I think if you have a culture which positively encourages a selfish couldn't give a s#it attitude then you're going to get some cracking levels of anti social behaviours. |
Correct - Canada has loads of guns but very little gun crime. |
And the gun crime which does occur (Gang shootings etc) is the majority of the time carried out with illegal smuggled pistols from the US.
Canada has a licensing requirement to own firearms unlike the US which has to be renewed every five years after passing a 8 hour training course and includes a background criminal and metal health check along with being signed off by your other-half (for domestic abuse reasons).
Above is for a normal non-restricted license which allow ownership of shotguns and most rifles. To gain the redistricted license that l hold, which allows ownership of pistols and short barreled rifles or rifles such as the AR15 requires an additional 8 hour course and you get put into a police database which flags you if any arrest or metal health issues are reported. You also can only take restricted firearms to a government approved range with police authorization to transport so no shooting them at the farm which sucks.
There is also a prohibited category which is for full auto rifles and pistols with a barrel under 4.1 inches but they stopped issuing theses back in the early 90,s and those who have one have to keep them locked up no shooting them at all.
5 round limit for semi auto center fire rifles 10 round limit for pistols and no limit for rim fire rifles. (you can use pistol mags in a rifle hence my AR10 has 10 round 308 mags marked for pistol use). No limit on how much ammo you can buy/store.
The rifles listed in all three category were clearly made my a civil servant who had no clue about firearms but watched too many movies for example the G11 is prohibited but never made it beyond HK prototypes though it did appear in Demolition Man AK47 is prohibited but the VZ58 is non-restricted, AR15 is restricted but the AR10 and AR180 is non-restricted. ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 301 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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