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SDFarsight
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 04 Aug 2019    Post subject: Kickstand plates Reply with quote

These things

https://youtu.be/ihqCLIFcLJ8

I've been tempted to fix a kickstand plate to my bike as the stock one is fairly small and it's been sliding around far too much for my liking (probably an issue with the bolt rather than the foot, but it should still help). It seems like a no-brainer; more surface area so it's less likely to sink into hot tarmac etc. But something just doesn’t seem right.

If this is such a great product then why aren't they more common? You'd think that most motorcycle companies would be making their own yet it seems like 90% of these things come from one factory in China along with some suspiciously perfect Amazon reviews.

Would you use one? The only issue I think it may have is that the surface area might not entirely touch the ground since the angle of the kickstand is designed for a certain length. That and the few honest reviews that I have seen mentioned that the bolts need tightening every so often.

Alternatively there is the plastic pads that are literally just a piece of plastic that you park the stock kickstand ontop of; these seem to be more popular yet they have the obvious disadvantage of you having to place and remove it each time you park.
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 04 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

My son got a side stand plate free at a bike show. It's separate from the side stand, i.e. you just put it down under the foot of the side stand. You can carry it in a tail-bag, put a pouch on your bike/keep it somewhere on the bike, put it in a pocket or whatever. Seems a good idea. It's only a bot of plastic with a lip around it.

I don't think the ones that are bolted on look very good, they're an extra complication, *cleaning*, and bah!
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 04 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
My son got a side stand plate free at a bike show. It's separate from the side stand, i.e. you just put it down under the foot of the side stand. You can carry it in a tail-bag, put a pouch on your bike/keep it somewhere on the bike, put it in a pocket or whatever. Seems a good idea. It's only a bot of plastic with a lip around it.

I don't think the ones that are bolted on look very good, they're an extra complication, *cleaning*, and bah!


Yep ^^that right there.

They're called pucks and are immensely useful on soft ground.
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 04 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the rare occasion when you need one I think the bike will be more secure using a side stand puck. Mine came free with bike magazines and I always carry one. The puck always will be flat to the floor whereas a bolt-on has no ankle flex; on a slope it could be tippy-toeing and thus digging in.
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 04 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh now this is interesting, bolting on an extension is just what I need for my CBF500, however I'm concerned about it interfering with the frame when I flip the stand up.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 04 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Courier265 wrote:
Oh now this is interesting, bolting on an extension is just what I need for my CBF500, however I'm concerned about it interfering with the frame when I flip the stand up.


The only way you can be sure is to try, as it really depends on which extension you have and what your frame/fairing is like.

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On the rare occasion when you need one I think the bike will be more secure using a side stand puck. Mine came free with bike magazines and I always carry one. The puck always will be flat to the floor whereas a bolt-on has no ankle flex; on a slope it could be tippy-toeing and thus digging in.


It kind of sounds self-defeating as you're likely going to have to place the stock stand on the ground anyway unless you reach down to remove the puck while sitting on the bike, or maybe hold the bars in one hand then take the puck into your pocket with the other; being unstable at worst and awkward at best. Of course most surfaces won't cause your bike to drop during the couple of seconds that you spend putting the puck back in your pocket but still I'd like it to be a permanent upgrade rather than placing down a coster each time you park.
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 04 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a good chance of a bolted plate coming loose at high speed. Ive not seen the plastic pucks, but I do have a small rectangle of 20mm plywood under seat, which works very well.
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PostPosted: 05:40 - 05 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDFarsight wrote:
It kind of sounds self-defeating as you're likely going to have to place the stock stand on the ground anyway unless you reach down to remove the puck while sitting on the bike, or maybe hold the bars in one hand then take the puck into your pocket with the other; being unstable at worst and awkward at best. Of course most surfaces won't cause your bike to drop during the couple of seconds that you spend putting the puck back in your pocket but still I'd like it to be a permanent upgrade rather than placing down a coster each time you park.

'Pucks' are an deriggeur bit of 'Rally' equipment; they were originally aluminium and came in a veriety of styles and colours, like a beer-can... oh yeah, that's what they were!

The 'issue' of retrieving the puck from the sadle before riding off, is one that, I, with gorilla-arms have never realy suffered, BUT, at a rally some years ago, I observed a woman of shorfter stature, 'solve' with a coily kidie lanyard, you know the sort of brightly coloured cord you stick on a toddler in a super-market.... She had two, one on each handle-bar grip[, one went to the side-stand puck, which had a hole drilled in it to attatch it, other wemt to a disc-lock, as a reminder. One on the puck was used like a fishing line to reel it in so she could stick it in her pocket without leaning over so far to reach it.
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PostPosted: 07:14 - 05 Aug 2019    Post subject: Re: Kickstand plates Reply with quote

SDFarsight wrote:
Would you use one?


I have one on my KLX, which is used for riding on unmade roads. When we get to gates, and one of us has to dismount to open it for the others, it's fun to watch your bike gradually keel over as the stand slowly sinks into soft grass or mud, but a pain to wrench it out again and be left behind as everyone disappears up the lane. So these help to prevent that. Would I bother on a road bike or indeed an off-road bike that sees only road miles? No.
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 05 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a basic plastic puck, never really felt the need to have one attached to the bike (this is more of a caravan idea, attaching feet to the corner steadies) - years ago I remember parking my bike on a tarmac parking bay on a hot summer day - as I returned to the bike I saw it gracefully sink down to one side - the stand had sunk through the hot tarmac - since then I've always carried a puck.
Also, my wife moans at me if i don't use a puck on the drive because my side stand sometimes leaves little rusty footprints.

I keep one under the seat and have one permanently on the driveway.
Pretty much exactly this:
https://bykebitz.co.uk/bike-it-stand-puck.html
Cheap & effective.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 05 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDFarsight wrote:
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
On the rare occasion when you need one I think the bike will be more secure using a side stand puck.

It kind of sounds self-defeating as you're likely going to have to place the stock stand on the ground anyway unless you reach down to remove the puck while sitting on the bike, or maybe hold the bars in one hand then take the puck into your pocket with the other; being unstable at worst and awkward at best. Of course most surfaces won't cause your bike to drop during the couple of seconds that you spend putting the puck back in your pocket,

Yes, I'll sit astride the bike and reach down to collect the puck, or I can stand on the left, lean the bike on my hip and reach down. Worst case, I ride onto the road, park the bike and go back for the puck (or crushed Coke can.) It does sound like a faff but it's such a rare event I've not looked for a permanent alternative.

SDFarsight wrote:
but still I'd like it to be a permanent upgrade rather than placing down a coaster each time you park.

Do it and post a review. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 05 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm genuinely surprised there are people here who find the idea of a puck novel, I thought it was just one of those things we all sort of knew about and had one or two of kicking around.

On every bike but the GS I've been able to reach down and pick up the puck whilst straddling the bike. I was a bit stumped first time I tried that on the GS, but soon worked out the lean it against my hip whilst picking it up trick Mr Jimbo just mentioned. It's a little sketchy when the bike is fully luggaged up, wouldn't want to lose balance and get squished! I managed fine though.

I'd probably do the bolt on one if I needed it often enough, but not really necessary rising through London!
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 05 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

All things considered I think I'll go with the simple puck. The new bolt should stop the stand from sliding and I'd probably spend more time religiously tightening the plate with an allen key rather than just keeping a puck in my pocket.

kramdra wrote:
There is a good chance of a bolted plate coming loose at high speed.


Is there?
It's such a niche product that I don't think there's many examples of them staying on or falling off. The closest I've heard is that you need to periodically tighten it with an allen key; implying that it does become loose at some point.
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