DVLA Court summons

R1stu · Shrek! Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Karma :

Right, not sure the best way to deal with this.

A couple of weeks ago, I received a court summons for my Stepsons bike.

Now he assured me in March that he sorned the bike and paid the fine, but it seems he hasnt. and Now I have the court summons for not being insured when it was taxed and not sorned.

Now I was the registered keeper because the bike was on finance in my name and had to be until the agreement was finished.

Now according to the DVLA themselves being the registered keeper, does not make me the legal owner.

Now I was planning not to enter a plea, and to attend court, dragging his sorry ass with me, as even though the offence took place I was not the legal owner of the bike

Last thing I need/want it points/fine record on me for his stupid laziness.
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Riejufixing · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jun 2018 Karma :

You've got the summons, so telephone, or (better) go and see, the Clerk of the Court and briefly explain the situation. Take your documents too. It is likely that instead of the case being struck out, that you, as the registered keeper, will be responsible. Um.

grr666 · Super Spammer Joined: 16 Jun 2014 Karma :

They just want their money, and you are their simplest route to getting it. They won't care a toss for the ins and outs.
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weasley · World Chat Champion Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Karma :

DVLA aren't concerned with the owner, just the registered keeper. That's you and as such the responsibility lies with you to dot the Is and cross the Ts.
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MCN · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Karma :

Short and Curlys. (Do you even shave?)

Assurance is nothing in the eyes of the law.

YOU should have been more proactive and checked the status of the vehicle even with 'assurance'.

I have four vehicles registered and I have been caught out from time to time even though I 'assured' myself that all the boxes had been ticked.

You need to be on top of this shite. Not your fault but then it is if you are the keeper.

Family can be a bastirt.
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R1stu · Shrek! Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Karma :

Yep I Know, we kept on at him to sort it, and all we got is I am and every time I asked if it been paid, he said I tried to pay it, but not sure.

His mum just turned around and said, I can't make him do stuff.

I even said give me the money to pay it but kept getting Ill sort it!

Is it just a larger fine, or will I/He get anything else along with it?

eg is it civil or criminal? A nice trip to Bristol is on the cards whatever! Evil or Very Mad

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Andy_Pagin · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Nov 2010 Karma :

Chapter & verse ...
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-insurance/uninsured-vehicles
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owl · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Oct 2016 Karma :

Guessing this is the same stepson from this post back in January

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=326640

Nobby the Bastard · Harley Gaydar Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :

DVLA 'Bend over darling, I'm going in dry.'
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Has the bike now been declared SORN?

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1198 · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2013 Karma :

Try Pepipoo if you haven’t already before you do anything.

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MaybeGuy · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Karma :

I don't know if it still works, but I got away with this exact thing about 8 years ago by saying I'd declared SORN by post, and it's deemed "served once sent".

Simple as that.
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LustyLew · World Chat Champion Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Karma :

Stepson is a cunt.

The whole Registered Keeper/Owner point is for finance ("You will not own the car" on PCP deals, but the keeper is liable for VED, Insurance etc) purposes.

Note for future, never ever get involved financially with him again. He's not your problem. If GF is unwilling to take charge, she's a cunt too.

Move out. Sounds like a bunch of wet lettuce. Always someone elses fault...

A100man · World Chat Champion Joined: 19 Aug 2013 Karma :

Clearly this..

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

I've been done for this.

It's all on you I'm afraid legally speaking because your name is on the V5.

EXACT chapter and verse:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/144A

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R1stu · Shrek! Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Karma :

We were trusting him to be an adult, he said he did it. We can't prove he didn't do it until the letter came Sad

TBF He has sent me a Picture of the sorn, which was done the day after the fine was sent.

Bike was sold in March soon after the finance was paid off.
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R1stu · Shrek! Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Karma :

Appeal got too late, fined turned up today £350 with costs and victum surcharge
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