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MarJay wrote: | Happy pills is a massive misnomer. |
Yes, when I say happy pills, I mean any pill that will make you feel better, in any conceivable way. Pain killers, anxiety medication, sleeping pills... what every just brings you happiness (not in pain anymore, not anxious, sleeping like well...). Speaking more about day to day issues, not serious mental health issues, that require proper diagnosis.
By the way, I never take drugs. Being sad, sleepy/can't sleep, feeling pain, anxious, anger... are all very normal human reactions to what's going on around them. However, many people do not want to feel these things, have these issues, so they chose the easy way out pill every time it is presented to them and that's just wrong. Especially when people want to alter their children's behaviour with medication, even when it's not necessary, at all. Also, do not forget about painkillers and people ''eating'' them like candy. Just look at what ibuprofen (non-prescription pain medication) does to your body, when you're using it.
I'm not trying to ridicule anyone. All I was trying to say was, don't go for the pill when there is no need for it. It was also a quick comment before I went to sleep, so I made the issue a bit too simplified.
As I've got the time now, I'm gonna ask a question: What about social acceptance of said above medication? I'm sort of aiming my question on 'mericans where alcohol = bad, prescription drugs/opioids = cool. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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mpd72 wrote: |
But there's no cure, so all a diagnosis does is give you an excuse or at least an explanation for your actions surely?
How would being labelled differently make a blind bit of difference to how you behave? How does it help? |
It was more of a "We know you do X in Y situation. We know You can't help it. Here's why, here's how to help modify that, here's the signs it's about to happen/happening". It's not a cure, but it gives me the tools I need to live life in a way that anyone without issues would. Without these, I was not a pleasant person.
The huge part is the help, advice, insights from trained professionals etc, that came along with the label. I was diagnosed later in my childhood, but that was still 25 years ago. There just isn't the rescources that there used to be, budgets cut, spread to thinly, and of course, the fakers that "need" to have a disability so it's not their fault.
It's not the label. The label helps to explain the very rare times it's used, why I do things a certain way. That's it. It's not an excuse, it's more of a "I can't help it". As far as labels go, I really don't care. I make auty jokes, I laugh at myself when I do auty things. Life goes on.
FWIW - I claim nothing, I get no help and nor do I want it. I take no drugs for it. Once I got the initial diagnoses & help, it took a couple of years to "figure things out" and be able to work with it in a fashion that lets me live a normal life. After that, I just "got on with it". I work a normal job, have normal bills, have a normal relationship.
I'm not going into details, my particular diagnosis is fairly unusual, even now, and I'm a guinea pig for textbooks because of my early diagnoses and the way I have managed to deal with things. A little googling on certain issues will doxx me in a heartbeat, and I know there's a few people on here that have honed that particular skill. ____________________ '98 VFR800 (touring) - '12 VFR800 Crosrunner (Commuting) - '01 KDX220 (Big Green Antisocial Machine) |
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Grubscrew wrote: | Never had it in my day, if you mis behaved you got a slap, learnt from it and respected elders and those in authority.
Autism, spectrum.....what a load of shit. A badge of honour to be a twat and make everybody else’s lives a misery too. |
You haven't got a clue, sure it might be some badge handed out like cheap candy nowadays but it has absolutely fuck all to do with misbehaving. I had a good upbringing, didn't get up to half the shit that 'normal' kids did but there is some stuff about me that makes people uneasy.
For example, our 16 year old dog was suffering from lung failure and having a hard time breathing, I'm not great on the empathy scale but was somewhat surprised when the missus wasn't overly enthusiastic about my suggestion of putting the dog out of her misery using a plastic bag. My reasoning was that she was suffering, it wasn't going to get any better and a vet would charge a bloody arm and a leg to euthanise her with the same result but the missus didn't see it that way, ( The dog died unaided last week). I'd do the same for the wife, if she were suffering and asked me to, bet you wouldn't even have the balls to, let alone do it without being a blubbering pussy. ____________________ Make mine a Corona. |
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With copied behaviour a classic is a mother being scared of spiders. The child sees this and grows up the same.
Modern medicine is allowing medics to spot and diagnose far more problems with the human body and that will explain why more are diagnosed. Yes there will be people jumping on the bandwagon and faking things. Can anyone remember that lass from the USA who claimed a jab crippled her and she began walking very strangely? It hit world news.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ztiAN9k584
She faked it. Lots believed her. If she can do that then people can also do it with a hidden illness such as mental health.
The original question: A licence to then be a prick?
Nope. For what's happened to me I could well have continued that rot. My story isn't nice. Instead I chose to make it stop at me. ____________________ CCM 404 DS |
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People are having children at a later age than in previous generations.
https://www.nhs.uk/news/pregnancy-and-child/autism-and-parental-age/
I know for a fact that SEN schools are required to have a staff:pupil ratio of 1:1, and that they use agency staff to fill the gap. This is not education in the usual sense; it's more like babysitting. The kids are not well-served by this system - they are just kept occupied with a range of distractions and toys, and they're not really helped - they just get older. Part-time workers from agencies tend to have a much lower level of qualification than teachers, and they're expensive to hire. This means substantial local authority investment goes into SEN schools and SEN units within mainstream schools. SEN teaching assistants, even more than the mainstream education sector, tend to be women. Working part-time means that this occupation can be supplemented by universal credits, that they can have and look after their own children on their own schedule, etc. This facilitates an environment in which the cycle continues (older parents, single parents, more autism). It's a growth sector. There's nothing new about middle class professionals who think they can "have it all" having kids at a later age and then dumping them at nurseries and, later, boarding schools. However, it used to be a minority thing.
Expect autism to be on the rise. |
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So in modern society these people with personality disorders, actually have a desirable trait that is no use to them in the environment they live in, but could be in a different place or lifestyle or in a survival situation??
It's known in mental health circles that typically there's a far higher proportion of Black Afro-Carribean men who are pre-disposed to severe mental health issues and also to extremely high levels of violence and conditions such as Psychosis etc.
To make the justification and argument that these individuals have a useful and desirable personality trait, but one that their living environment and society does not regard as advantageous is ludicrous!
Are we trying to get away from saying, doing bad things because your a bad or mad cunt is not wrong or something you can lay blame and punishment at the person for, because they have a special desirable personality trait that they can't express and utilise freely in society? |
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Have fun:
https://www.psycom.net/borderline-personality-test/
I was at maximum. They're correct.
I always see people and life this way - everyone is broken somehow. Sometimes physically but often mentally. Everyone has a broken wire or two. It's what makes people interesting. Obviously some people have important wires broken and they're hard work. ____________________ CCM 404 DS |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 243 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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