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Easy-X
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 31 Aug 2019    Post subject: Export declarations Reply with quote

I dunno if there are any of our 'murican cousins on this forum but what's the deal with export declarations from the USA?

Pretty much anything I get for less than 100 eurodollarpounds from China is marked down as a gift or low value item, goes through the post and the excise men are rarely bothered.

Anything I get from the USA (and Korea too, TBH) is scrupulously declared to the precise cent value even if it's only a dollar over the threshold for gifts etc. and really no one would be worried if it was marked down a bit.

Why the pathological honesty when only the UK tax man sees the benefit?!
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 31 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they’re a company because they’re playing it straight?
Because they’ve nothing to gain or lose by being fair and honest?
I got bummed by HMRC for £250 for a pair of carbs from America. I also wondered if they couldn’t have sent them as a gift!
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 31 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've Noticed this with EBay purchases. The Chinese always lie about the value to avoid duty.

I suppose our Inland Revenue would stand zero chance of getting a Chinese seller to pay up.
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 01 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mis-declaring value of goods for customs export is a federal offence in the U.S. AFAIK. That's a huge risk for no gain for the exporter.
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 01 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few years ago a friend sent me a Christmas present (I thought that would be classed as a gift personally), she had put the value of all the items at $200, I had to pay something like £67 import tax Evil or Very Mad

Or another example, I just bought an outfit that was supposed to be from a UK seller, turns out it was posted from Pakistan and was listed as samples at a value of $15, I wanted to return it and was told to pay the postage myself and lie about the contents.... in the end I questioned why he was listed as a UK seller, why I couldn't just send it back to the UK address listed on his account.... he gave me a full refund and told me to keep the stuff too (most of which was too big or badly made, so completely useless to me).
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 01 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Mis-declaring value of goods for customs export is a federal offence in the U.S. AFAIK. That's a huge risk for no gain for the exporter.


Ah! That makes sense, thanks Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 11 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
I suppose our Inland Revenue would stand zero chance of getting a Chinese seller to pay up.


Well duh. It isn't the seller who pays, it's the recipient.
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 11 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

HMRC will be also very on-the-ball about anything you import from Japan.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 11 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
mpd72 wrote:
I suppose our Inland Revenue would stand zero chance of getting a Chinese seller to pay up.


Well duh. It isn't the seller who pays, it's the recipient.


Who’s responsibility is it if the seller is caught lying about the value and filling in false customs declarations?
I suppose our Inland Revenue would stand.....etc
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 12 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:


Who’s responsibility is it if the seller is caught lying about the value and filling in false customs declarations?
I suppose our Inland Revenue would stand.....etc


Most web sites tend to state it is the buyers responsibility to pay any duty/tax.
If seller lies re value etc, they stand the risk of all their packages being pulled. Might be possible that action is taken as well.

End of the day, if buyer wants goods, then they will have to pay.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 12 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
. Might be possible that action is taken as well.



I'd be amazed if a Chinese Ebay seller has ever paid a fine to HMRC for filling in false customs declarations on items sold to the UK.

They must know it goes on. How many millions of packages come through Ebay from China, where the value and often, item description are a blatant lie to avoid customs charges?
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PostPosted: 07:48 - 16 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
I'd be amazed if a Chinese Ebay seller has ever paid a fine to HMRC for filling in false customs declarations on items sold to the UK.?


I realise this may come as a shock to you but UK law doesn't apply in China.

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PostPosted: 08:42 - 16 Sep 2019    Post subject: Re: Export declarations Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Pretty much anything I get for less than 100 eurodollarpounds from China is marked down as a gift or low value item, goes through the post and the excise men are rarely bothered.

A few years ago I purchased a smartphone from China. The seller offered optional insurance against customs interception.
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 16 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
mpd72 wrote:
I'd be amazed if a Chinese Ebay seller has ever paid a fine to HMRC for filling in false customs declarations on items sold to the UK.?


I realise this may come as a shock to you but UK law doesn't apply in China.

HTH Thumbs Up


Can I just remind you the line you started this rediculous tedious argument over?

mpd72 wrote:

I suppose our Inland Revenue would stand zero chance of getting a Chinese seller to pay up.


You're agreeing with me you tw@. I was trying to point out that half the stuff coming form China on Ebay blatantly fakes the customs declaration, because....? Well because there's sod all chance of them getting prosecuted for breaking customs declarations.
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