Chain help and advice

[Gazz]

I'll try and keep this as quick as possible.

Bought a bike. Had fucked chain and sprockets.

Bought replacement chain which was too long. Tried to shorten it and fucked it.

So I bought another chain and a rivet link.

Both chains were 530.

When the second chain arrived, it is not as thick as the first chain.

There is also no rubber rings that I can see on this chain or with the rivet link.

Will this be OK to fit without rubber seals?

I'm at my wits end with this bike, just want it on the road.

Ill forward some pictures in a moment to help.

[Gazz]

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New chain, no rubber rings.

[Gazz]

First replacement chain that I fucked.

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Difference is size. First chain on left. New chain on right.

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[Gazz]

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New rivet link, with no rubber seals.

[jaffa90]

O ring chains are grease sealed to keep the crap out and will last longer and less stretch with just a surface lube.

The other chain will need lubing inside and out and adjusting and cleaning more.

[Gazz]

Furthermore, I wanted a chain riveting video on YouTube and the guy in the video just pushed the rivet link through with his hands. The link which I have appears to be too tight to push through.

[MCN]

No sealed chains are still good to use. They are usually only fitted to things that are enclosed to prevent shite sticking to the lubricant. A chain guard. Modern bikes do not use chain guards so need a sealed chain.

The unsealed chain will be fine but just won't last as long as a sealed chain. Make sure you clean it and lube it regularly.
I use the following regime. Lube the chain every full tank of fun juice.
A dry lube or oil based what ever. Dry lube resists shit sticking to the chain which can promote wear.
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[Gazz]

[MCN]

[Gazz]

Do you get different sizes on rivet link. The second chain that I bought did not come with a rivet link. So I bought one separately. It will not go through the holes in the chain but it will go through the first chain that I have damaged.

[Gazz]

Fuck this shit. I'm going back to a shaft drive.

[MCN]

Chains are sized by various dimensions. Pitch Width and roller diameter.

These will all determine the pin diameter.

I would not 'mix' the master pin ans try to use the pin supplied by the Chain OEM.
Have you contacted the cnuts who sold you the latest chain and asked for help?
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[Gazz]

I'll be using the o ring chain because I have made a mess of the xring one.

Any idea why the rivet link will not pass though the links? The chain and link both say 530 on them.

[Gazz]

[MCN]

[Gazz]

I've just noticed that the o ring chain has did50 wrote on the side, instead of did530, could this be a reason for the l
Pin not being able to pass through?

[Polarbear]

[Gazz]

If both chains are 530 chains, why would the plates be different sizes?

[jaffa90]

[Nobby the Bastard]

530 refers to the width of the sprocket, not the size of the plates.
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[stinkwheel]

For accuracy, the 530 referrs to the pitch and width of the chain The width being the distance between the inside of the plates (the roller width if you preferr), the pitch being the distance between the pins.

As has been said, the diameter of the pins, pin length and the outer width of the chain will vary between models but those two sizes are the important ones that determine what will fit.

For interest, 530 is the ISO "metric" standard they adopted based on the old imperial sizes in 8ths of an inch and that's probably the most common.

so 530 is 5/8" by 3/8". 520 would be 5/8" by 2/8". 525 would be 5/8" by 5/16". And so on.

So next time someone tells you Europe and Japan work on the metric system, you know they are wrong.

Heavy duty non o-ring chains are often stronger than the same size o-ring, they tend to have thicker pins. They will often use heavy duty (or standard duty) chains on race bikes for reduced resistance because they don't have the stiction of the seals to overcome. My mate runs a standard duty 520 chain on his 160bhp gsxr1100 race bike.
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[Gazz]

Where would I find the information which would help me order the correct size of rivet link for this chain?

[stinkwheel]

[Johnsumner]

Hi new to biking, tyers I have on my Keeway are rubbish, any tips when buying new ones please
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[Nobby the Bastard]