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PostPosted: 16:38 - 20 Sep 2019    Post subject: North America has lost 30% of it's bird population Reply with quote

https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2019/09/nearly-30-birds-us-canada-have-vanished-1970

I heard pet cats are a major contributory cause of the drop.

Cats are a leading cause of global warming.

I'm taking the cats off my vehicles then.
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 20 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a big clue in the text when they say raptors have increased by 30%
What would they be living on then?
There's enough land in Canada to mean the implied human influence is debatable.
Also a lot of the changes won't just be pesticides they are wanting to blame.
Like here small farms especially dairy have largely vanished with their small herds and associated flies for the swallows.
The land they occupied is now suburban lawn or taken over by larger farm neighbours with 20 metre wide combine harvesters.

Even if those farms have gone back to scrubby woodland it likely won't be as good for insects and birds as the more open landscape with livestock and smaller fields with a bit of cropping.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 20 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wind farms.

Kill migrating birds, bats and insects. They're at the perfect height to massacre as much air born wildlife as possible Evil or Very Mad

Wind farms also contribute massively to greenhouse gasses (along with all the other eco-shite like solar.)

By trying to save the planet the tree-huggers are actually hastening the end. Almost as if that was the plan all along Thinking
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 20 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
There's a big clue in the text when they say raptors have increased by 30%


Quote: "The study’s authors said that uptick is attributable to government regulations that banned the harmful pesticide DDT and made shooting raptors illegal." I assume you know about pesticides and predator–prey dynamics in the ecosystem, and the effects of shooting predators.
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 20 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Wind farms also contribute massively to greenhouse gasses (along with all the other eco-shite like solar.)

How's that then.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 20 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Wind farms.

Kill migrating birds, bats and insects. They're at the perfect height to massacre as much air born wildlife as possible Evil or Very Mad


Total bollox, even the RSPB has debunked that theory!
If you're really concerned about bird deaths, then a cull of domestic cats would be a good starting point, as they kill 55 million birds a year!
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 21 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suntan Sid wrote:
Easy-X wrote:
Wind farms.

Kill migrating birds, bats and insects. They're at the perfect height to massacre as much air born wildlife as possible Evil or Very Mad


Total bollox, even the RSPB has debunked that theory!
If you're really concerned about bird deaths, then a cull of domestic cats would be a good starting point, as they kill 55 million birds a year!


Yep cats are little kunts.

The garden of the house I lived at in west Africa had no lizards or birds ever visit. The cats had killed all the small wild life.
Normally the gardens are full of little lizards and birds.
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PostPosted: 05:13 - 21 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of cats around here. Lots of birds too. The cats must have all turned into snowflake lefties.
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PostPosted: 06:30 - 21 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isn't a cat brave enough to come into my yard while the dogs out there. Shes met each and every nearby local
cat and the outcome has been pretty much universal. One giant woof and a lunge and they depart in that way cats do
when somethings shit them right up. One stood its ground a few nights while I was walking her to a nearby valley, it saw
her coming arched its back as we got closer, she was on a lead obviously. The usual Woof lunge combo did the trick but the
cat was so shocked when it turn and ran that it ran straight into a brick wall, top speed and nearly knocked itself out.
I've been chuckling about that all week. That said if she could catch the pair of wood pigeons that seem to have adopted
my garden then she would have them. She'll get 'em one day... Laughing
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PostPosted: 07:03 - 21 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Wind farms.

Kill migrating birds, bats and insects. They're at the perfect height to massacre as much air born wildlife as possible Evil or Very Mad

Wind farms also contribute massively to greenhouse gasses (along with all the other eco-shite like solar.)

By trying to save the planet the tree-huggers are actually hastening the end. Almost as if that was the plan all along Thinking


Odd that. We have a very large wind turbine in the field at the back of ours. It has been up for nearly 10 years now and in all that time I have never seen a dead bird or bat beneath it. I don't go actively looking, mind, but if the theory about killing winged critters is correct you'd think the corpses would be piled up by now....
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 21 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
Easy-X wrote:
Wind farms also contribute massively to greenhouse gasses (along with all the other eco-shite like solar.)

How's that then.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-49567197
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 21 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
Odd that. We have a very large wind turbine in the field at the back of ours. It has been up for nearly 10 years now and in all that time I have never seen a dead bird or bat beneath it. I don't go actively looking, mind, but if the theory about killing winged critters is correct you'd think the corpses would be piled up by now....


No crows, foxes or kites round your way? Tiny cadavers last no longer than 24hrs where I live.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 21 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

At my house two small birds have died this year by flying into closed windows. I've cleaned the dusty, greasy evidence of around ten pigeon strikes too, though their fat bodies and tiny heads seem to give them protection. The mark they leave suggests they see the danger and hit the brakes at the last minute. Apparently windows are a significant threat to birds.

https://www.sibleyguides.com/wp-content/uploads/Bird_mortality_chart.jpg

https://abcbirds.org/blog/truth-about-birds-and-glass-collisions
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 21 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the answer! Ban back garden glass houses...

'cos, you know, greenhouse effect Shifty
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 22 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
That's the answer! Ban back garden glass houses...

'cos, you know, greenhouse effect Shifty


It's to do with co2.


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