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SirFallalot
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Diy handguard experiment Reply with quote

Now, before anyone bashes this, it's only an experiment.
I got some richa cold protect goretex gloves this weekend. Fully waterproof and warm, however, the outer fabric didn't have time to dry during work, and then overnight, as both commutes involved downpours.

So even thought hands are dry, the wind chills the gloves, and thus my hands.

I've read that guards help with not getting so much rain on the front and deflect wind, I was searching for some last night but I didn't want to splash on £50 guards without, which I could use to buy heated gloves if I returned mine.

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I did it on one side only. To be honest, I think it's even worse. Maybe the inside of the tupperware creates a vacuum and even more air flows around the area.

I saw a nice instruct able yesterday but can't find it right now.
I'm also not putting milk jugs or muffs on.

Anyone recommend a naked bike friendly sleek guards that helps, or some design tips?
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

In what way is that worse than milk jugs? Milk jugs work.

Search on the R&G website for 'barkbuster'. Not cheap though.

UFO make cheap hand guards for motocrossers.

Muffs are very effective. A mate of mine had some horribly tasteless ones made specifically for a CB400 that she bought in Tokyo from a shop that only did CB400 accessories (she's an aussie living the the UK and used to stop off there when she visited home). Shiny black patent leather. Oddly suited the bike.
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, fuck! My eyes , get it away!
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now if those were fitted to an old ratty Eastern European or ancient Brit bike, they would be SO cool Smile .
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Re: Diy handguard experiment Reply with quote

TheWhiteBaron wrote:

I'm also not putting ... muffs on.

You can choose to have warm dry hands, or you can choose to not have muffs on your bike. Your choice, of course.
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Oh, fuck! My eyes , get it away!


Worse bit is I don't even disagree with you Surprised

Would I just be better off getting 90 quid back for the gloves, adding the 50 from the block busters, and getting a Gerbing XRS12?
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Re: Diy handguard experiment Reply with quote

TheWhiteBaron wrote:
Now, before anyone bashes this, it's only an experiment.

I made a similar experiment years ago on my old outfit. It incolved a length of cupronickel 1/2" pipe, and a galvanised iron shield on each end, as in two halves of a cone with the open end sheeted over, put on "sharp end" in. They were snap rivetted on the ends of the (gracefully curved) pipe, which was clamped onto the handlebars. It looked great, but as you say I don't think it did anything to help at all, possibly worse than nothing.
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try these, probably cheaper than buying the Chinese to get the containers Razz
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/22mm-7-8-Handguards-Motorcycle-Hand-Guards-Universal-Protectors-Motorbike-Dark/392392716632?epid=859424249&hash=item5b5c6db158:g:a5QAAOSw~qtdjxL~
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

raesewell wrote:


Thanks, and that is exactly where I got them from. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming they're some sort of steel, the angle brackets do not appear to have enough thickness to be strong enough for that application. I would expect wind resistance from the plastic food container to either fold the brackets backward at some point, or else the vibrations to cause a sort of concentric work-hardening at points along them, and the bracket to fail by breaking at some point near where they are folded at 90 degrees. I believe you need to distribute the load from wind resistance more evenly.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The proper ones might also protect levers in those embarrassing toppling over incidents.
In the picture you might have got them a bit closer to your hands.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha! not just me makes experimends then Very Happy
First glance made me think of having a curry tonight.

I reckon milk jugs may be a wee bit more aerodynamic
but as mentioned, there are probably a lot of cheap chinese
options nowadays that might provoke less outrage.
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

even the lads on cheap Sinn's mopeds are going to be laughing at you.
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinK98 wrote:
even the lads on cheap Sinn's mopeds are going to be laughing at you.


If it's freezzing and you have warm hands while other don't. Who's laughing at who?

There's an old military saying "Any cunt can be cold and wet.".
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was at the pit my blacksmith lecturer tried to get me to make steel leg guards for my TY175. That's right - steel leg guards on a trials bike.
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a quickie.
They are not waterproof gloves if they get soaked through.
Gortex is the 'breathable' membrane inside the layers of glove material, leather/fabric.
The outer material should also be able to shed water.
If it's not then take them back.

Be sure the gloves are not getting wet inside because you have the cuffs of your jaikit tucked into gloves like a nube.
The water runs down your sleeves into the inside of the gloves then.
That overwhelms the Gortex.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I use my bike all through the winter apart from deepest snow ( usually when I can't get my own gloves off the night before ) I have a pair of these fitted - 2X 7/8" Black Universal Motorcycle Hand Guards Handguards Motorbike Handlebar SR - and find the stop / break up enough of the wind / cold to make them worth while.

Adam
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Here's a quickie.
They are not waterproof gloves if they get soaked through.
Gortex is the 'breathable' membrane inside the layers of glove material, leather/fabric.
The outer material should also be able to shed water.
If it's not then take them back.

Be sure the gloves are not getting wet inside because you have the cuffs of your jaikit tucked into gloves like a nube.
The water runs down your sleeves into the inside of the gloves then.
That overwhelms the Gortex.

Anti-abrasion outer fabrics like Cordura hold water even if the underlying membrane keeps your hands dry. As the water disperses it takes heat with it. It's a good point about water entering the cuffs though. As said on the OP's other thread, my hoped-for solution are fully waterproof Dainese outergloves (I'm a fan of layering) but they haven't been delivered yet. I'll post an update when they arrive.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 02 Oct 2019    Post subject: Re: Diy handguard experiment Reply with quote

TheWhiteBaron wrote:

I'm also not putting milk jugs or muffs on.

Because that would look shit? Laughing

stinkwheel wrote:
There's an old military saying "Any cunt can be cold and wet.".

There's an old van drivers saying too. "Look at that silly sod on that motorbike getting soaked. Balls to that."
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PostPosted: 02:36 - 03 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just use neoprene muffs you gimp.
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PostPosted: 04:16 - 03 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
MCN wrote:
Here's a quickie.
They are not waterproof gloves if they get soaked through.
Gortex is the 'breathable' membrane inside the layers of glove material, leather/fabric.
The outer material should also be able to shed water.
If it's not then take them back.

Be sure the gloves are not getting wet inside because you have the cuffs of your jaikit tucked into gloves like a nube.
The water runs down your sleeves into the inside of the gloves then.
That overwhelms the Gortex.

Anti-abrasion outer fabrics like Cordura hold water even if the underlying membrane keeps your hands dry. As the water disperses it takes heat with it. It's a good point about water entering the cuffs though. As said on the OP's other thread, my hoped-for solution are fully waterproof Dainese outergloves (I'm a fan of layering) but they haven't been delivered yet. I'll post an update when they arrive.


Not if it's employed as the outer layer of a 'waterproof' gear.
I know this, I live in the UK's Rain Forrest.

The outer fabric should have been prepared during the manufacturing process to shed water.
The membrane underneath will not function properly if overloaded.

This is not rocket surgery. (It's a bit of fizzix though.)

I have more Quality Bike Jaikits than you can shake a stick at.
I've used waterproof clothing for years.

I do not struggle with the gear staying wet.

Google breathable membrane.

For the record and hopefully this gets out before Brexit, leather can be waterproofed too. 😉

Edit I
In fact the Boffins at Rukka developed a system for their waterproof leather garments. 'cking expensive though.

Edit II
https://www.nikwax.com/en-us/productselector/waterproofing.php
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 03 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
ColinK98 wrote:
even the lads on cheap Sinn's mopeds are going to be laughing at you.


If it's freezzing and you have warm hands while other don't. Who's laughing at who?

There's an old military saying "Any cunt can be cold and wet.".



As per OP post

I did it on one side only. To be honest, I think it's even worse. Maybe the inside of the tupperware creates a vacuum and even more air flows around the area.

So your going to get laughed at while you have cold and wet hands.

worst of all worlds...
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