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PostPosted: 16:28 - 05 Oct 2019    Post subject: Motorbike death, nothing unusual except...... Reply with quote

Bit of an interesting one this.

Biker killed by US diplomats wife, family flown back to America before arrest was made.

https://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/us-suspect-in-fatal-northamptonshire-crash-leaves-uk-11364400282762

I was under the impression that all diplomats families had diplomatic immunity however unless I've read it wrong it seems this woman hasn't or they just don't want it in the news.

So the Yanks pull the family back to the US and is that the end of it?

Also, what do you think would have happened if it was a Brit diplomats wife in the US. I reckon she would have been thrown straight to the wolves.

Soft touch Britain again?
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 05 Oct 2019    Post subject: Re: Motorbike death, nothing unusual except...... Reply with quote

Usually there's a "gentlemen's agreement" that diplomats who do something serious (like murder) volunteer to stand trial but everything else is either ignored or gets you booted back home.

There'll be an inquest. If it's just a basic accident then that's that but if the findings are more serious the FO and the CPS will get in a huddle to work out how to bury it.
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 05 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wasn't a basic accident. She was on the wrong side of the road and the poor lad headbutted the car. Given the current state of the administration over there though, I very much doubt any fucks will be given.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 05 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is, unfortunately, the nature of diplomatic immunity.

Dimplomatic immunity prevents us (and every other country) putting undue influence on diplomats by trying to apply the country's laws on them. The downside is that they are , to all intents and purposes, exempt to the law. All we can do if kick them out.

By the same token, our diplomats cannot be imprisoned for on trumpted up charges at the whim of leaders of other countries.
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 05 Oct 2019    Post subject: Re: Motorbike death, nothing unusual except...... Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Usually there's a "gentlemen's agreement" that diplomats who do something serious (like murder) volunteer to stand trial but everything else is either ignored or gets you booted back home.

There'll be an inquest. If it's just a basic accident then that's that but if the findings are more serious the FO and the CPS will get in a huddle to work out how to bury it.


Really? Look up Yvonne fletcher.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 11 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would appear neither Mr. or Mrs. Sacoolas are under the protection of Diplomatic Immunity:

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/jonathan-sacoolas-is-not-and-has-never-been-a-diplomat/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7550565/Husband-American-woman-fled-U-S-killing-Brit-not-registered-diplomat.html

But there's a lot of water between a UK Court and America.
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 11 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Sod wrote:
It would appear neither Mr. or Mrs. Sacoolas are under the protection of Diplomatic Immunity

Unfortunately an agreement was made concerning personnel in general on the base rather than just "diplomats". This I think should be immediately reviewed.
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