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Paul2129
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PostPosted: 06:17 - 09 Oct 2019    Post subject: Wet arms.... Reply with quote

Bit of a random one, I have a Dainese Goretex jacket, I forget the exact model but it’s similar to the Carve Master 2 jacket but it’s the one with the laminated Goretex. We’re away in France touring at the moment and we got caught in 4 hours worth of rain when on the autoroutes. I ended up with my fleece to wet/damp up to the elbows.
Many years ago I rode a CBR600, and I would always wear gloves that pulled over the cuffs of my jacket, I obviously found that rain would run down the jacket and into the tops of my gloves, so I switched to putting my gloves inside the cuffs. Now I ride an NC750X and the angle that my arm sits at is much more horizontal. I’m just wondering what people’s thoughts are on if it’s likely that the rain is just runnin up the cuff, and this is user error rather than a faulty jacket ? On the same day we also found that water had got slightly up my trouser leg despite it being a good fit to my boot, and inside my pannier box, wetting some clothes that were indie a rucksack.... so the rain was pretty serious !

Your thoughts would be much appreciated Smile

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PostPosted: 07:16 - 09 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wicking.

(Not the Canoe Reaves type)

Sleeves over gloves is the way.
But that method relies on the sleeve cuff being tight over the glove to prevent water migrating yup the cuff.

Just check that the sleeves of your cardigan or jumper isn't being pulled over the glove too. Shocked.

Capillary Action is a pig.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 09 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a hose on the sleeve to check. You might need to reactivate the DWR in a tumble drier.

If not damaged then goretex has a warranty, if it leaks you can have it repaired.
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 09 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get rain gloves with a double cuff. One in, one out.

Water will find its way in in very heavy rain unless you go to extremes like gaffa taping your gloves and ankles or wearing a jacket with neoprene storm cuffs etc. There will be spray coming up from the road as well as down from the sky. I have a set of the newest generation of sealskins socks, knee high. It's like wearing wellies under your bike gear. Gaiters also work.
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 09 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

From decades of mountaineering in the UK mountains, I can tell you that getting an outfit that isn't sealed (as opposed to something like a spacesuit) is by definition always going to have weaknesses because of the apertures in it for hands, torso, head etc. - I've yet to find any outdoor jacket that will truly keep me dry in torrential wind-driven rain, a similar environment to being on a motorcycle in the rain. Double cuffs, stormflaps on the zips etc. are all helpful but not perfect and given the right (wrong) combination of conditions the water will work in. Capillary action will then nicely transfer that wetness to places you want it even less.

I guess the ideal solution would be connections between appendages (gloves/helmet/trousers) and jacket with waterproof zips . . . Dragons' Den anyone?
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 09 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

On one of the really, really rainy days I was out with my wax jacket which is actually pretty good in the rain for the most part but I came back home and my shirt arms were soaked from shoulder to elbow...

I'd left the shoulder/chest vents unzipped Rolling Eyes Why the water wanted to then go down my arms I have no idea.
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 09 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThunderGuts wrote:


I guess the ideal solution would be connections between appendages (gloves/helmet/trousers) and jacket with waterproof zips . . . Dragons' Den anyone?


No need. It's called a drysuit. People wear them for watersports in cold weather. All in one suit, waterproof (as in you can go scuba diving with it) zip, latex or neoprene seals at the neck and hands, booties.ankle seals at the feet.

You still get damp eventually but no more than that. They are expensive enough that you'd get really pissed off if you got a hole in it. The more breathable they are, the more expensive you're talking.

I have been tempted to wear my drysuit to the Dragon rally on occasion. Would be a bit of fun because you can jump in the river with it on and not get wet.
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ThunderGuts
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 09 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
No need. It's called a drysuit. People wear them for watersports in cold weather. All in one suit, waterproof (as in you can go scuba diving with it) zip, latex or neoprene seals at the neck and hands, booties.ankle seals at the feet.

You still get damp eventually but no more than that. They are expensive enough that you'd get really pissed off if you got a hole in it. The more breathable they are, the more expensive you're talking.

I have been tempted to wear my drysuit to the Dragon rally on occasion. Would be a bit of fun because you can jump in the river with it on and not get wet.


Yep, I meant motorcycle specific though . . . a kevlar drysuit with armour. Interesting thought . . . it'd be quite a spectacle though
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 09 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
ThunderGuts wrote:


I guess the ideal solution would be connections between appendages (gloves/helmet/trousers) and jacket with waterproof zips . . . Dragons' Den anyone?


No need. It's called a car. People drive them in cold and wet weather. All in one suit, waterproof (as in you can go through a car wash with it) even comes with heated seats.


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PostPosted: 17:45 - 11 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further to this, I did a 24 mile motorway journey on a naked bike this morning, in torrential rain (weather warning in fact). Over my waterproof-ish bike outfit I wore cheap PPE over trousers and an old GoreTex climbing jacket (which was retired because it leaked) - kept me warm and dry! Quite pleased actually.
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Paul2129
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PostPosted: 06:45 - 14 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, thanks so much for your replies, now I’m home, I think I’ll test this jacket properly with a hose Wink

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