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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 21 Oct 2019    Post subject: Scotland bans parking on pavement Reply with quote
A new traffic act was voted in on the 10th of October. Basically no more parking your bike up on pavement or footway. Will be a pain for people who need to chain up to something.

Inb4, No, there's no mention of J&S.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 21 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:
So you have a different Highway code in Scotland do you?

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Part 244 of the Highway Code says: “You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.”

If there are no signs telling you that you can park on the pavement, don’t.


Should and shall mean entirely different things under the law.

Should means it's not compulsary but is advisable.
Shall means it's compulsary.

If you are outside London There's no issue with parking on pavements.

I do note the ambiguity of the highway code, though. Do they mean elsewhere in london that isn't a pavement or do they mean outside of london?
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 21 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/scotland/998742/scotlands-pavement-parking-ban-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-bill/
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 21 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:

If you are outside London There's no issue with parking on pavements.


Cars outside my local in Kent used to get ticketed on a regular basis, even though the part of the pavement they were parking on was actually in pub grounds and still left a completely free pavement, blocking nobody.

These looked like some private company though, as they arrived in cars, ticketed and fecked off sharpish. The tickets were council ones though.


Seem to recall the offence is actually driving on the footway, not the parking . . .
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 21 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:

It's a dropped kerb. You have to drive over it to get to the car park anyway.


Sounds a different type of enforcement; parking contraventions are typically decriminalised these days, i.e. civil enforcement by Councils (or companies operating on their behalf). Parking restrictions, e.g. double yellow lines, apply from the centre of the carriageway to the edge of the highway boundary (which includes the footpath usually and sometimes even ground behind it if it's technically council owned) - you don't have to be physically on the yellow lines themselves. The driving on the pavement is a criminal (traffic) offence so it'd have to be plod to dish out that one . . . and presumably would have to catch the driver in the act to both prove liability and the car wasn't air-lifted into position.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 21 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Section 72 of the Highways Act 1835 is used in the current Highway Code. Rule 145 states:

"You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency."

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmselect/cmtran/writev/parking/m01.htm
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 21 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
If it's an act then it is law.
Highway Code is more like advice with a caveat that if you don't take heed of that advice you'll be facing trouble from the PoPo and a magistrate or a sheriff.

Parking on the pavement is fucking gross.
It's fine if the pavement is really overly wide and there is no obstruction but many folk take the pish.

I live in a cul de sac where about seven cunts park their works pickup and vans on the pavement. I not only totally block the pavement but it looks like shite too. It's worsererer than those lazy bastirts who are too fat to cut their front grass or pull weeds out their driveway.
We live in a society polluted by durty bastirts.
Once we achieve Brexit that will all be history. We will be able to cull those cunts then.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 21 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
MCN wrote:

Once we achieve Brexit that will all be history. We will be able to cull those cunts then.


The thing is the law (in Sturgeonland) already had the power to tackle anti-social parking. They've just made a blanket rule now against any parking on pavement and footway. Footway being a nice loose term presumably covering anywhere a human might stagger around on. There is an interesting route to an exemption in the new act. It says a signed letter from a constable or fire officer can be granted to allow parking. It's not clear why but im wondering if a motorcycle owner could argue for an exemption letter on tne grounds that parking on the pavement so the bike can be chained up prevents crime and is reasonable as long as it does not obstruct the pavement/footway.
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