bike filling issue?

[WreckTangle]

This might be me (as a new biker) being thick or there is something wrong with my bike.


Have this problem filling the wretched thing up. when the tank is almost empty, it costs about £6 pounds to fill the thing up, which, by god is so much cheaper than my gas guzzling car (which takes about £30 petrol)

Anyway, when I fill it up, it starts to fill, but when you start to fill, when it gets to about £2.50 worth of petrol, you hear the gas hose thing click, and it stops filling the bike. It's like it stops when you have run out of fuel tank capacity when you are filling up a car, but I know my tank can take more fuel. so I give the fuel pump hose another squeeze on lever thing, and another 30p worth of petrol comes out, then it goes click, and the bike stops filling. Then I have to let go of the handle, re press the hose handle again, and another 30p worth of petrol comes out, then it goes click, and stops filling the bike.


Basically, to fill the bike up, you have to fill it up in lots of small bursts of around 30p worth of petrol. until you get a full tank.

I have tried to re adjust the angle of the fuel hose, and I have tried to cover the gaps in the nozzle and the hole where the fuel goes in, (to maybe allow pressure to stay normal) but this does not help.

Does anyone else get this, is my bike bust or am I doing something wrong?
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[MarJay]

Don't put the nozzle all the way into the tank.
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[Easy-X]

Not much you can do other than find a sweet spot that works. Most bikes do the same to a greater or lesser extent - yours isn't broken
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That's how fuel pumps work when you put the nozzle right by the surface of the fuel and pull the trigger too hard. It's to stop the hard of thinking soaking themselves in petrol. You should be grateful by the sound of it.
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[stinkwheel]

There is a central tunnel in the tank where it sits over the frame. The end of the nozzle will be very close to this when filling and it triggers the auto cut-out on the pump.

I generally rest the end of the nozzle just inside the tank on the edge of the filler neck. Do not rely on the pump cutting out or you'll land up with fuel everywhere, watch for it getting full and slow down when you get near to the top.

It's important that you do touch the end of the nozzle to the inside of the tank on the filler lip, this earths the bike so you can't get a static spark (common cause of fueling fires).

Another newbie error when fueling is filling the tank to the brim with the bike vertical then putting it on the sidestand. This will cause fuel to spill out of the overflow or filler cap. If you're going to park it on the sidestand, fill it on the sidestand.
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[Andy_Pagin]

Remember with a car you've got a foot or two of pipe between the filler hole and the tank, with a bike you haven't, hence the pump cut-out thingy problem. Personally I put the nozzel about halfway in, put about ten quid in then slow the flow and lift the nozzel to just below the max level ring in the tank and watch the level rise, slowing the flow to a trickle as the level rises. Obviously all bikes are different.

Never fill it to the brim as the fuel can expand and overflow while you're riding.
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[Copycat73]

any thing under 1 liter i fill from a 20l jerry can .. because it's too time consuming .. as you is finding out.
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[jaffa90]

[scobie140]

[xX-Alex-Xx]

What car are you driving that only takes 30 quid to fill up? A go-kart?
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[Pete.]

[Teflon-Mike]

The nozzle on most forecourt petrol pumps is about 6 inches long, and has a secondary 'pipe' on top, sucking air. When the filler kneck of a tank is filled, the level of fuel covers the nozzle; the secondary piupe sucking air starts to suck fuel, which is heavier than air, so a pressure cut off 'senses' that the secondary pipe is trying to suck fuel, so the tank must# be full, and it switches 'off' the pump.

I have had this niggle not just one bikes, but on Land-Rovers and Jerry cans, where you can either or both, shove the pump-nozzle far into the fuel recepticle, so it fills at a lower level, and the cut off clicks in early, and or the filler neck is small, and you fill the neck and trigger cut-off cos the fuel cant flow out the way fast enough.

Trick is to lift the nozzle so when tank fills you don't cover the recovery/cut-off port so soon, and or only fill in sort bursts to give the fuel time to flow down the filler-neck away from the nozzle.

Depending on the bike/tank it can take a fair few tries to find the optimum technique, but..... good form will likely be to get off the bike, and put it on the centre stand first, or if no centre stand, and 'cos petrol station jockeys are want to get arsey with folk in crash hats; get off, put hat on pump, lift filler, then fill 'slowly' holding nozzle in one hand, and as the tank fills, watching the level and tilting bike verticle with other hand, resting bike on knees in absence of side-stand, to get max flll.. Your call but itr IS a matter of technique over technology, and its a knack you have to discover and re-discover for every bike you come to fill with fuel.
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[flea-rider]

SIT ON THE BIKE KEEP IT UP RIGHT .. STICK THE NOZZEL JUST IN ..
I get 14£ in mine last 2 weeks ..
yeah it's a 125 .. but cost count .. cheaper than a 600 yr round ..
460 inc service petrol and cbt (2 yrs) insurance

[Teflon-Mike]

[RhynoCZ]

Yes, displacement isn't everything when it comes to fuel economy. A smaller engine has to work harder to deliver the same power (speed). The best example of this, that I have ever seen, was CBR919RR and BMW E39 523i. Relatively big displacement engines doing as well as if not better than much smaller engines, while still having all the extra torque and power on demand.
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[weasley]

[Pete.]

[jaffa90]

It`s a (fcuking) BIG issue filling a tank!
Air has to come out at the same rate as the fuel going in,
also air has to go in at the same rate as the fuel goes into the engine.