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PostPosted: 10:01 - 19 Dec 2019    Post subject: How far do you think you can go on a flat tyre Reply with quote

Dilemma. Last night, I was riding home on my yamaha ybr deathtrap. About 10 mins in the journey I noticed that my bikes handing was starting to act a bit 'sluggish', so I though I would get home and look at the bike as only another 10 mins for me to get home from that point. I get home, I firstly look at bike as whole and immediately notice that the back tyre is flatter than a cat that got in a way of a steamroller.

I spent last night trying to find any kind of puncture in the tyre, but I cannot find one, so I suspect that it is going to be a garage job.

I thought that I could temporary pump the tyre up, drive it to the garage then they would fix it............but to make things worse, my electric bike pump decided that it would die on me, so now I have my bike at home with a flat tyre.

The question really is, is it safe to ride a bike on a flat tyre, as I know you can knacker in inner bits in it if you do, and if you can do, how far can you go before you start to see sparks ...... and then I wake up in hospital?

I am only saying this as the nearest garage is about 10 mins ride away, do I risk it or should I hire someone at extra cost to get the deathtrap delivered straight to the garage?
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 19 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use a bicycle pump/foot pump/track/stirrup pump. Don't ride with a flat.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 19 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not ride it on a flat tyre. Take the wheel off and take that or find another way.
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 19 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've ridden more than ten miles flat or near flat, sometimes you don't have much alternative but it will likely ruin the tyre and could damage the rim.
There's a chance of the tyre coming of the rim altogether.
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 19 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it is your tyre, so go as far as you please.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 19 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tyre will be toast and you might ruin the wheel/rim. I certainly wouldn't think of doing it with an alloy wheel. You might get away with a steel one if you take it easy.

Also, hope you aren't seen by the plod. They won't be happy.
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 19 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
Use a bicycle pump/foot pump/track/stirrup pump. Don't ride with a flat.




I have nothing to blow it up now.........apart from my own lungs (which I dare not try)

So it looks like the response from you lot is 'don't ride while flat'

christ, gonna hire a van to get it there .....dammit Thinking
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 19 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

WreckTangle wrote:
christ, gonna hire a van to get it there .....dammit Thinking

Why would you do that? Just remove the wheel and take it to the shop in a car, or even public transport if you don't know anyone with a car.
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 19 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do say people should get out for a brisk walk more often Wink
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 19 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

WreckTangle wrote:
Riejufixing wrote:
Use a bicycle pump/foot pump/track/stirrup pump. Don't ride with a flat.

I have nothing to blow it up now

Borrow some sort of pump! Mug a passing cyclist! Buy one for £3.99 from Argos! Surely someone near you has a bicycle, or a car & has a foot pump, you could ask them!?

Failing that, as piazza said, get the wheel off and take it in to be fixed.
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 19 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post your location, someone here maybe kind enough to lend a hand...
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 19 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
Post your location, someone here maybe kind enough to lend a hand...


Sarffend according to his profile.
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 19 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP says the repair shop is only 10 minutes away. He's already ridden it 10 mins with the flat tyre. Ride it slowly to the shop if you must. You won't die and the tyre might still be salvageable. Pick up a puncture repair kit while you're there.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 19 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll have you off. Borrow a pump. A bicycle pump will do fine. If you are in town, one of your neighbours will have a bicycle pump. If you're in the countryside, all farmers have compressors with airlines.

Or if you can get to a shop, one of those cans of foam from a service station/supermarket.

Failing that, take the wheel out and start walking. Someone will invariably stop and give you a lift. Any self-respecting biker would stop and give a lift to someone walking down the road with a motorbike wheel with a flat tyre. I've been there quite a few times and never walked more than a mile.
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PostPosted: 04:17 - 20 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

10 minutes away... 30mph is 1/2 a mile a minute; so suggestion is that the tyre place if less than 10 minutes away is probably less than 5 miles away, more likely 2...... that's half an hour's walk with the wheel taken out of the bike, or a short taxi ride....

Yeah, DON'T ride on a flat... take the wheel out, walk, get a bus, take a taxi, 'whatever', this is NOT exactly a huge problem, and you do not need to take the whole bike to the tyre shop, just the wheel... and factory took-kit under the seat should get that off.
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PostPosted: 07:15 - 20 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't ride it - find another way.
You've learnt some lessons with this. The first one is not to rely on an electric pump. Bicycle ones are less than a fiver. Some basic tools and basic skills to remove wheels and tyres would be handy now so learn them. It's not rocket science. Puncture repair skills are needed too.
Least you now know what a flat tyre feels like and not to continue riding on it!
Oh and finally: You're guaranteed things like this in the most terrible of riding conditions.
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PostPosted: 08:35 - 20 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's the front tyre, you can get as far as you want if you know how to wheelie Laughing

The fact you referenced your bike as a "deathtrap" on the first line should give you an clue as to whether riding on a flat good idea not not.
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 20 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

order a repair kit and pump off the amazons...
next day delivery and all that jazz.
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PostPosted: 01:26 - 21 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

as above. remove the wheel yourself and take it to the tire repair place. walk ( not fun with a wheel) bus,uber,taxi etc. the having a wheel on its own will save you £20 removal and fitting fee so even with a taxi your saving money
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 21 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the suggestion from stinkwheel about starting to walk with the wheel and hope that someone offers you a lift.

Unless you're really really unlucky, someone will stop and offer you a lift. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 21 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not carry a can of TyreWeld? Medium size will easily get a bike tyre up to a 'get you home' pressure.
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 21 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm always keen to plug a tyre and extend its life, but hold on a minute. You're supposed to stop as soon as it feels squishy/sluggish, but you've ridden on it flat. Riding a short distance on a flat can do structural damage to the sidewalls. When you got home, was it hot or smelly? If you shine a strong light on the sidewalls, can you see flaking?

When you go over a bump the tyre is designed to deform and squash one hell of a lot and then bounce back to a nice round shape again. I doubt your tyre can do that any more. On the next big bump it could split and have you off, and you might die.

But you can ride on a flat to the tyre shop if you go at a slow walking pace and avoid potholes and the tyre stays on the rim and it doesn't start ripping. If it was me I'd risk it, but no faster than 3 mph. Stop every few minutes to see how hot it's getting and whether it's starting to crack or rip next to the rim.
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 21 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bear in mind air comes out fast when at full pressure but slowly as it drops. There will often be 5-10psi or more in a 'flat tyre' so continuing cautiously does not mean inevitable disaster - for a few minutes anyway!
Radial tyres with low profile walls don't deform a lot you would be hard pressed to tell it was flat until you add your own weight.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 23 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:

Borrow some sort of pump! Mug a passing cyclist! Buy one for £3.99 from Argos! Surely someone near you has a bicycle, or a car & has a foot pump, you could ask them!?




yeah, sadly I had to borrow my little nephews small manual foot pump designed for children's bikes, took about 700 years to pump the damn thing up! ..... now my legs hurt!

But it has finally got to the garage this morning, I will hopefully pick the wretched thing this afternoon. I suspect they will say the whole wheel is fudged so that they can charge me lots to replace it. I gotta learn how to replace a tyre by myself Sad


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It'll have you off. Borrow a pump. A bicycle pump will do fine. If you are in town, one of your neighbours will have a bicycle pump. If you're in the countryside, all farmers have compressors with airlines.

Or if you can get to a shop, one of those cans of foam from a service station/supermarket.

Failing that, take the wheel out and start walking. Someone will invariably stop and give you a lift. Any self-respecting biker would stop and give a lift to someone walking down the road with a motorbike wheel with a flat tyre. I've been there quite a few times and never walked more than a mile.


Welcome to southend, the place where people will stop for you alright, but the big hammer and the knife that they have got ..er.....will be used for fixing your face ..........not your bike Mr. Green

Teflon-Mike wrote:
10 minutes away... 30mph is 1/2 a mile a minute; so suggestion is that the tyre place if less than 10 minutes away is probably less than 5 miles away, more likely 2...... that's half an hour's walk with the wheel taken out of the bike, or a short taxi ride....


half an hours walk with a bike with a flat tyre, urgh, I am too lazy for this walking business


Sister Sledge wrote:
Don't ride it - find another way.
You've learnt some lessons with this. The first one is not to rely on an electric pump. Bicycle ones are less than a fiver. Some basic tools and basic skills to remove wheels and tyres would be handy now so learn them. It's not rocket science. Puncture repair skills are needed too.
Least you now know what a flat tyre feels like and not to continue riding on it!
Oh and finally: You're guaranteed things like this in the most terrible of riding conditions.


You sound like my mother....sorry mother Wink
Yeah, I work in a cushy office, and don't normally do this 'manual labor nonsense' but I might learn by watching you tube videos..what could possibly go wrong Thinking

Ste wrote:
I like the suggestion from stinkwheel about starting to walk with the wheel and hope that someone offers you a lift.

Unless you're really really unlucky, someone will stop and offer you a lift.


walking .......urgh, too lazy

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I'm always keen to plug a tyre and extend its life, but hold on a minute. You're supposed to stop as soon as it feels squishy/sluggish, but you've ridden on it flat. Riding a short distance on a flat can do structural damage to the sidewalls. When you got home, was it hot or smelly? If you shine a strong light on the sidewalls, can you see flaking?


whoops, bye bye wheel Sad
To be fair, I did immediatey look at the wheel, but I could not smell anything, I even sprayed it with a hose to see if there are any bubbles comming off it, but I found nothing, I even checked the side walls and found nothing what so ever, so it is just going to have to be a whole new tyre/wheel .
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 23 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a flat about a mile from home I thought I would make it, nope. Even going at <20 mph I couldn't ride the thing and had to patch it.
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