Dropping to 1st gear when moving -yes/no?

[seeyalater]

As the title says, I remember on training the instructor would say if he knew he would have to stop he would drop into 1st gear before he stopped, baring in mind his bike and training bikes were 2018 bikes.

Mine is 2007 and doesnt like it to much, sounds like engine wining a as if to say "Oi idiot calm down" clutch seems fine so wonder if this is normal and maybe im going into 1st at a speed i shouldnt lol. not sure if i was going 15mph ish. seemed slow and i knew id have to stop.

thanks in advance and although prob a dumb question,, be gentle

[Evil Hans]

If I do ever move into first before stopping, I keep the clutch in until I've stopped moving and I'm ready to pull away again.
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[WD Forte]

If I went into to 1st at 15mph on mine it would probably clunk a bit/lot!
I think my car would to be honest
but going in just as I came to a stop at sub 5 mph would
probably be painless.
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[Riejufixing]

[MCN]

[Riejufixing]

[Nobby the Bastard]

My bike does almost about 50 in first, so yes I do change down to first whilst riding slowly sometimes.
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[seeyalater]

im saying the bike doesnt like being in 1st with the clutch in at around 15mph ish
I work down the gears fine but think i go into 1st too soon and keep clutch in til stop, then wait to move away. i remember my metro car when i was a kind being same. but old cars were like that or so it seemed.

I know if letting clutch out in 1st at a high speed with sound really bad and rev its arse off.

[jimspeed]

Why not take note of the speed you usually change from 1st to 2nd gear and use that as a reference, some bikes will do 60 mph or more in 1st where others will do 10 mph. You dont want to letting the clutch out in 1st gear at a speed faster than the engine can manage otherwise you may lock the rear wheel momentarily in slippy conditions.
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[stinkwheel]

Nope. I stop in neutral after having owned and currently owning several motorbikes that simply will not go into neutral while stationary with the engine running. Used to be a very common feature but most of them have indexing on the selector drum now that deals with that.

So for me, snick into neutral just before coming to a complete stop. Unless I'm going into "slow riding" mode, in which case I'll go into 1st (and still snick up/down into neutral just before totally stopping). I try to avoid coming to a complete halt wherever possible.
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[Kentol750]

Down to 2nd until I know I'm stopping, under 10mph, into first whilst coasting with clutch in... nice clunk tells me I'm in first and I'm ready to pull away without stalling coz I've stopped in 3rd (again).
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[stinkwheel]

I should add that with a standard Enfield Bullet clutch, if you sit in first for a protracted period with the clutch pulled in, it WILL either stall or ride off away.
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[stevo as b4]

Why do litre bike owners only use 2nd and 3rd gear? I need to be educated in modern 2004> bikes. Is it for smoothness, engine braking, moarr noise, or something else?

I'd expect any litre bike that's light like all the sports ones are, to pull my arms out in 5th and 6th gear from 30-40mph, as otherwise I'm not sure what they have going for them?

I take it that these 85ib/ft machines are not gutless at low rpm and thus don't need to be in a particular gear at a particular time generally. I've had litre bikes in the past that would slap the chain around like a rag doll under 2500-3000rpm, but they only had two cylinders so low rpm smoothness was never going to be amazing. My IL4 600's were happier at low rpm, but didn't have any noticeable throttle response below 5000rpm in the high gears.

Oh and to answer OP's question, yes I would but its very much bike dependant and depends on the situation, surface and terrain I'm riding on.

[Nobby the Bastard]

Triple in my case so lumpy below about 2.5 k.

The exuo was smooth from just below 2k but then it also had the exup valve as well as an extra cylinder to take away lumpyness
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[RhynoCZ]

I never drive/ride in the 1st gear. The first gear is only there for you to get going in the worst conditions possible = pillion rider + uphill, full car of people/cargo/towing + uphill.

I'm also not keen on the kick you get when you shift from the 2nd to the 1st gear on any motorcycle out there.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

[RhynoCZ]

[Nobby the Bastard]

[RhynoCZ]

[Nobby the Bastard]

At least 3 litre.

If you don't get gearing and how it can be short or long i'm not going to waste my time any further.
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