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Posted: 18:02 - 22 Dec 2019 Post subject: Drink Driving |
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Got back from my works Christmas do last night, and I just want to warn everyone to be careful about drink driving. We're getting very close to Christmas and the police are out in numbers checking on drivers.
Last night I was out for a few drinks. One thing led to another and I had a few too many beers and then went onto the Whisky. Not a good idea I know, but knowing I was over the limit I left my car where it was and took a bus home. Sure enough, I passed a police check point where they were pulling over drivers and doing breath tests. Naturally, the bus just got waved past and I arrived home safely and quicker than I would have done in the car. Which was a nice surprise as I've never driven a bus before and I'm not even sure where I got it from.
Have a good Christmas. ____________________ Suzuki Bandit 1250
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make sure you go to the right house as well, you don’t won’t to wake up next to someone else’s wife or husband! ____________________ I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now!
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Well, husbands I agree, but wives ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Sister Sledge wrote: | In the North East of England the police are having many more of these random stop and check points. I see people complaining about them but FFS I'd rather they caught those people drink driving.
Son now drives buses and just the other morning he was stopped at 4.30 am heading into work by police and breath tested - he doesn't drink but you can see the police are looking for those hungover from the night before too.
As for actual drink drivers? Two weeks ago, a woman I know was at a house party with her new but complete nugget boyfriend. They had an argument and she decided to drive the car instead of leaving it and walking home. She also attempted to run that boyfriend over. It was in a cul-de-sac, her car a new BMW on finance and during her drink (probably drugs too) induced rage she's managed to flatten many garden fences, smash up several other cars and finally put her own car through the corner of someones house. Everything was filmed by neighbours security cameras. Yes she was arrested.
I'm not exaggerating but she thinks she can get off because one of her children has asthma and attends a clinic every 6 months!!
Whilst waiting for her January court appearance she's literally asking friends if they'll be a guarantor for a new car for her..
Her life is headed for the gutter. |
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I used to work on vehicle recovery for the Police contract & have many tales to tell about how drink driving affects lives. Sobers you up & I don't care what anyone says, the limit should be zero & 24hrs throttle to bottle.
Most drink drivers are habitual, they drink drive regular & they're difficult to catch. If the Police were to stop every car coming off a housing estate any day between 4-8am the hit rate would be 40%+, but these aren't the drivers the Police are looking for.
An old favourite trick is to abandon the car if anything happened on the journey & leg it to a mates house to sober up before reporting the car stolen. Meanwhile, we'd go pick the car up & they say that drunks can't smell their own alcohol but the instant you open the cars door it hits you straight in the face. Classic signs are mobile phone & fast food in the footwell, sometimes even a wallet or handbag.
The Police can't get the evidence to prosecute when it happens like this, but we not the Police & all the evidence we need is right there.
Back at the yard the car has 4x flat tyres & battery. If it's not a write off it soon will be, we'd hammer the roof in above the drivers seat, run the fork lift blades down the sills & into the A & B posts. A handfull of gravel in the oil filler & rip a few wires from the electronics.
Best thing is nobody ever saw us do this, no evidence see . . .
When the piSS heads finally got 'round to inspecting or picking up their car, you could almost see their lips moving "I didn't leave it like that".
We did £40k Porsches to £40 Corsas we really didn't care, dealing with the aftermath of some of the crashes caused by drink drivers does that to you. ____________________ I clean my guns with the tears of the snivelling, left wing scum. |
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Riejufixing wrote: | It is worth noting that reducing the "limit" in Scotland to lower than the rest of the UK has made little if any difference to the accident rate, for various reasons.
The problem is not generally the sober bloke who goes out and drinks 2 pints of ordinary-strength bitter or pint of strong beer or cider, it's those who are well over the limit, or driving at multiple levels of the limit. |
That "paper" (which I am assuming you are referencing) has some pretty glaring issues. They don't even try to pick apart general RTAs from those associated with drink-driving, they simply looked at overall RTAs and sale of alcohol (while assuming they correlate enough to be able to draw meaningful conclusions). While it's not unreasonable to assume that a reduction in drink driving would lead to an overall drop in RTAs, they haven't made any attempt to justify that. For all we know drink driving has fallen off a cliff and other causes have taken up the slack. It's almost certainly not the case but they haven't even tried to ascertain the difference (and that data is available)
While we are on that research...... those p-values are fucking usless. Only one is under 5% (drop in capita on-trade sales) and one is right on the border at 5%. These, combined with, frankly, very sweeping statements that don't make any distinction between correlation and causation make these results rather sketchy looking. If I had turned in data like that at any point beyond high-school I would have expected to get a right (rhetorical) bollicking.
Having said all that, a lower limit wouldn't really be expected to reduce drink-driving, since (as you point out) that rests on the assumption that a significant proportion of drink drive accidents are caused by people just below the current limit...which doesn't seem that likely.
Of course, that is just speculation since Plod Scotland haven't bothered to enforce it very hard.
Riejufixing wrote: | Intrerestingly, the TRL and others worldwide have determined that driving behaviour is impaired more during a phone conversation, even hands-free, than by having a blood alcohol level at the UK legal limit. I suspect this is the next target for legislation. The Transport Committe report, ‘Road Safety: driving while using a mobile phone’, also points to evidence showing the use of a hands-free device creates the same crash risk.The Transport Committee are recommending that the ban on hand-held devices should be extended to hands-free phones (Aug 2019 report). |
That's not news. I recall reading something similar years ago, the upshot being that (adjusting for the knob jockeys that are actually browsing their phone while driving) the problem with mobiles was the distraction that the conversation caused to the driver. Of course, the ramifications of this are that you shouldn't be allowed to talk to passengers while driving but good luck stopping that.
Also....how on earth would they be able to stop you using hands-free? Seems by its nature that would be almost impossible to spot and considering the far more obvious "using a phone while driving" persists I wouldn't expect them to do any better with hands free. ____________________ I tell you what, mathematically, I'm having it |
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Drink driving will no longer be a thing once self driving cars are a thing. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 174 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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