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WD Forte
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 12 Jan 2020    Post subject: It's the little things that get you.... Reply with quote

So this guy rings on Friday to say someone tried to nick his Honda NSC110 Vision delivery scoot
and ripped out wires, broke plastics and now 'mi bik don go' and it's disappeared orf the map
so his tracking service rang him to say they dont know where it is.
The recovery guy dropped him/it off here about 7pm and I gave him the customary 'cant get the parts mate'
'that wall'll have to come down' etc.

Yesterday I had a look
Apart from damaged plastics...
The cable to the GPS module had been cut/snapped so as it was just basic skinny coaxial, I soldered and sleeved it back
together and it reappeared back on the map. Whoo hoo!
The bars were tight due to the steering lock being kicked off and the tongue on the forks was fouling the lock
so a bit of hammer and chisel work got it back in shape and freed the bars up.
The two wires to the ignition switch had been ripped out and luckily I had just enough room to solder new cables in
cos I had no idea how to remove the switch body without getting the angel grinder out.

I couldn't find any other obvious electrical damage and thought
"This is going swimmingly, soon get her up and running again"
turned on ignition, all lights come on, held in brakes, pressed starter....
Nuthin.

Today:
Apart from the tracker, It's also got a datatool immobiliser so examined the inductive loop near the switch for damage
checked connectors and wiring, found no obvious damage.

Bollox, its going to start getting complicated now especially as I have no manual, wiring or functional diagrams to refer to
so I trace the immobiliser wires, work out the functions and remove it whilst closing the loop back to normal use
Ignition on, brakes in, press starter....
Nuthin
More Bollox
Hmm.. as its EFI certain conditions will disable the starter circuit,
where is the starter relay anway? has the EFI been damaged? has an out of sight cable been pulled from a plug?
I pull more plastic off to look for faults
why does it always rain me?
getting dark now
Life is so unfair
I need a poo

So I'm sat on the bog muttering profanities about poxy plastic scooters theivin gypsy bastards etc
when the bowel movement kick starts my brain.
Hang on....
You didn't !
Did you?
Could it be?

After washings my hands ( always wash your hands after going to the toilet boys and girls)
I go outside and see the bloody side stand is down !!
Oh you Twat! you stoopid ferkin twat!!
I'd fixed it, but did all that fart assing about cos I hadn't thought to check the side stand.

Well at least I know it's all functional again and all I have to do is re-install the immobiliser
and fix the plastics
Ho Hum.
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 12 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this was 10 years ago I'd say "tracker and immobiliser, bit overkill for a scooter?!" but dem streets are mean for delivery drivers these days Sad
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 12 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a safety issue you forgot or an age thing? Doh!

Re minds me when my bike did not start after filling up,

(pull the clutch in Embarassed ).
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 13 Jan 2020    Post subject: Re: It's the little things that get you.... Reply with quote

The classic paradox where detailed knowledge and experience of a system or subject obscures the simplest and quickest route to sorting the problem.

Happens to us all and a good reminder to check the basic, obvious stuff first before getting balls deep into the complicated/clever stuff. Smile
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 13 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my last bike few days after I bought it, rode into work, everyone was asking about it / having a look etc. End of the day, I'm stood by the bike all kitted up wondering why I couldn't get the fecking thing started. Neutral light on, alarm/immobiliser deactivated, press starter and nothing. No fuel pump prime, nadda. Cursing the bloke I bought it off, swearing at the alarm. All while the people I share the office with are offering me lifts home etc.

End solution - take the fucker out of gear. Neutral light was on but it was still in gear (apparently) so wouldn't prime. Kicked into first and back again, problem solved. Rolling Eyes Embarassed Laughing
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WD Forte
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 13 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, lesson to us all to check the basics
before getting into the complicated stuff.

With the wisdom of hindsight, I recalled putting it on the side stand briefly when it arrived before moving it into the position I wanted it then putting in the main stand.

I once rode a bike with no killswitch for years until I decided to reconnect it.
Couple of days later came out of a meeting and couldn't start the bike
Cranking over and over but no go, checking wires, plug caps, fuel etc
I had a very amused wise cracking audience of course who all cheered when I eventually remembered I now had a working kill switch which I'd knocked into the off position Embarassed
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