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The real answer is more bikes, if for an example the A1 category was raised to 250cc with 20hp limit, and was granted to full licence car drivers as in the case of the AM class, but for it to become valid they had to do the CBT in the form of proper training as opposed to how some of the training is currently done, and they had to display "L" plates for 12 months after which another CBT style of test was needed after this they would then have full A1 category licence ____________________ Mike.
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pepperami wrote: | In the 1700’s a member of Parliament announced he wanted to ban crossbows and make it a criminal offence to own or use one.
Another member of Parliament wisely reminded the gentlemen that there were so many xx thousands of crossbows in private hands.
To pass that law would mean you would suddenly have xx thousands of criminals in possession of deadly crossbows .
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It didn't bother the SNP when they denied low powered airguns from people with their daft licensing scheme.
Easy-X wrote: | The government have previous form for creating criminals where previously there were none: the tax disk and SORN system! |
and the insurance system, and the licensing system and the mysterious disappearances of bike licence categories when renewing them etc but plenty of people have brought this on themselves for not treating the ability to travel properly as a right. |
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Won't really affect me, as long as I can get petrol and parts and keep using my 27yr old car and classic bikes. I need to be allowed to run old two strokes until there's no Silkolene bottles left for sale though.
I use trains and buses alot for commuting, and with the usual rail problems of delays and cancellations, they otherwise work for me and suit my needs. At work we use a fleet of diesel cars and vans, and when I need to be out at work sites all day, I could do 100miles in rural areas, with lots of short duration stops. If an electric van can easily do that, and we had enough plug in parking bays at work, then it would work for me.
For domestic travel an electric car or bike would suit me nearly all the time, if it was comparable to the cost of an ICE vehicle. I do 3-4 long trips a year 250-280miles in a day. If I can get a petrol/diesel hire car for these trips then that is fine.
I expect for some people in areas with poor transport links or very rural remote areas, that anything other than personal private transport will not work for decades yet. And for the private and commercial drivers who do 200-300miles a day for work as the norm. They will need loads of help to get an electric solution, it might need such huge infrastructure improvements it'll also be decades before it works for them.
And for HGV's well it'll only become viable to go electric when at least all of the UK motorway network is electrified with inductive road charging, and that won't be enough for all daily road haulage requirements. |
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Ethanol is also a good alternative with just a few mods like hoses and seals that are suitable and a water trap of some kind, there are so many alternatives that can be used, it's the oil companies or at least the higher level management that have some serious influence and dictate what can and can't be used ____________________ Mike.
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That's great, where you you buy your petrol, as the need to supply petrol to cars tails off, and becomes an unviable commercial proposition for petrol stations? There aren't enough motorbikes on the road to maintain petrol stations as commercial propositions alone.. ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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Polarbear wrote: | But that's all theory. LNG engines on ships is now and in fact I sailed on one built in 1966. |
That's 50 years ago. Changes will come. RR want to build SMRs starting energy production in 2030, and it's not the only one. Change won't happen tomorrow, but it will come.
Polarbear wrote: | It's proven technology. It would take very little to convert a modern car engine to run on LNG as has been proved with LPG power. LNG is much cleaner though so would be more popular. |
It's fossil fuel. It ain't going to happen.
Polarbear wrote: | Sure, if fuel cells come along. If inductive roadways are built and if my aunt was my uncle etc. |
Fuel cells aren't the problem, the problem is with supply (and manufacture). Currently, for cars and LGVs, battery seems more likely. Inductive roadways seem further away than "old-fashioned" things like the Siemens thing.
Polarbear wrote: | I still believe even Greta will moan when the lights go out because we are limited to electrical power when the wind blows or the sun shines |
Hence the move to nuclear and other. In france, for instance (and we know there's nothing special about them) they already get 3/4 of their electricity from nuclear power. |
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Well, we shall have to agree to disagree.
Anyway, another thought.
What happens if the other countries of the world don't go along with this 2035 cut off.
If you can still buy cars in France or import them from America there will be someone buying them up and selling them as second hand cars. Unless the government give a cut off date, i.e. ban them they won't be able to control the second hand market And any government that tells it's population that we will ban your perfectly good cars is asking for a drubbing at an election. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Well, we shall have to agree to disagree.
Anyway, another thought.
What happens if the other countries of the world don't go along with this 2035 cut off.
If you can still buy cars in France or import them from America there will be someone buying them up and selling them as second hand cars. Unless the government give a cut off date, i.e. ban them they won't be able to control the second hand market And any government that tells it's population that we will ban your perfectly good cars is asking for a drubbing at an election. |
I don't know what's going to happen, but the way things are going, globally, is clear. I'm sure there will be places where change happens at a slower rate, but they will beencouraged to change as change itself happens.
What will happen about imports? Who knows. I haven't even thought about that but I'd be surprised if there wasn't some restriction. The second-hand market won't be affected (except by, for instance, vehicle tax payments and the reduced easy availability of fuel), but it will fizzle out.
Look at what happened to steam cars, for instance. When something better came along, they died out, except among collectors, who have an expensive hobby. What'll happen now will be more carrot & stick I guess.
If I hear clarification on motorbikes, I'll post it, but I don't expect anything for a week or three. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 228 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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